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In reply to the discussion: OWS has meant just as much - if not more- than the teabagger movement to politics... [View all]Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Jack, while I'm glad that you and all the other generationally over-privileged white kids have finally discovered police brutality, you might not want to try to use it for every occasion. Just because someone thinks more could be getting done on the part of the protestors, does not mean that they are a supporter of that sort of brutality. it's a false dichotomy you're erecting there, Jack. "Fer us er agin' us" is as fucking stupid coming from you as it is coming from GWB. Don't use that tactic, it makes you look ignorant.
Don't call my comments insulting to movements that you very clearly do not understand, Jack. I can forgive you; they really don't teach this stuff in school (they never have; can't have kids learning about the blacks or the reds, after all!) but you need to understand... the civil rights movement, women's suffrage, the labor movement... these were not born out of people drumming in a fucking park. They came out of action. Both the civil rights and suffrage movements were born out of more litigation than you can imagine. The labor movement was born of workers doing what they felt necessary to secure their rights. All three involves intense political lobbying to get their favored politicians into office (or at least to get their enemies OUT), all three relied heavily on the power of the ballot to secure and protect what htye had and press for more.
And when the cops, the pinkertons, the assholes your dumb ass is trying to accuse me of supporting came out to stop them... did these "fighters for justice" (to use your term) meekly fold up and go home? They might have fled for that day, sure, nobody's going to stick around for an asskicking. But they come back. The men and women in prison keep on struggling - have you ever read "Letter from a Birmingham Jail"? I assure you, the title isn't a metaphor.
But what I see these days, is increasingly a "movement" that doesn't do a whole lot of moving... unless the police tell them to, and then it's all about tugging those forelocks and scurrying off. I see ignorant kids much like yourself rolling their eyes about the notion of becoming politically involved, because, like, that's what the man wants, man.
Like I said, I support the goals of the occupy movement... I think a lot of hte people in it are useless cocks, but I support the goals. My fear is that this movement will end up like the hippies - stagnant and useless, accomplishing nothing becuase the participants refused to do anything, and instead hoped that a lot of posturing and bad singing would magically make things better.