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47. Have you read some of the things he has said about the Democratic Party during the '80's?

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 12:27 PM

Oct 2018

Here are some quotes of his over the years....

1985:

“One can argue that the two-party system is a sham,” he said in a talk at Iowa State University during an event called Socialist Week.

“I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat,” he said in a profile in New England Monthly.

1986:

“The main difference between the Democrats and the Republicans in this city,” he said in an interview in Burlington in July with a Cornell student writing a master’s thesis, “is that the Democrats are in insurance and the Republicans are in banking.”

In that summer’s issue of Vermont Affairs magazine, he called the Democratic Party “ideologically bankrupt,” then added: “They have no ideology. Their ideology is opportunism.”

1989

In an op-ed in the New York Times in January 1989, he called the Democratic and Republican parties “tweedle-dee” and “tweedle-dum,” both adhering in his estimation to an “ideology of greed and vulgarity.”

1990:

At the Socialist Scholars Conference in New York City in April 1990, he asked, “Why should we work within the Democratic Party … ?” He said at the gathering he was running for Congress that year again as an independent because it would be “hypocritical” of him to run as a Democrat considering the kinds of things he had said about the party.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181

June 2017

“The current model and the current strategy of the Democratic party is an absolute failure,” Sanders said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/11/bernie-sanders-lambasts-absolute-failure-of-democratic-partys-strategy

Last April...

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) slammed the Democratic Party's platform at an event in Mississippi on Wednesday, saying it had been a "failure."

“The business model, if you like, of the Democratic Party for the last 15 years or so has been a failure,” Sanders said, according to The Washington Examiner.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/381808-sanders-dem-platform-for-last-15-years-has-been-a-failure

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