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tonedevil

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30. Do you think it wasn't in 1972?

Fri Oct 5, 2018, 01:19 PM

Oct 2018

The song is kind of brutal and there is always danger of giving offense if you use provocative language. I just think it is a true and important message.

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Bette Midler has been apologizing all day for this tweet [View all] Demovictory9 Oct 2018 OP

She's an ally. Her heart is in the right place despite this misstep. brush Oct 2018 #1

Do you know who... tonedevil Oct 2018 #4

+++++++++++ HAB911 Oct 2018 #20

So it's an old Ono quote. So what? And who doesn't know who Ono is? brush Oct 2018 #22

It's the title of one of her songs... tonedevil Oct 2018 #24

Yep, the use of the n-word is problematic here in 2018. brush Oct 2018 #26

Do you think it wasn't in 1972? tonedevil Oct 2018 #30

I keep saying the sentiment is correct. There is a way to get that across without... brush Oct 2018 #31

That sentiment is... tonedevil Oct 2018 #34

"Own it"? Explain pls. brush Oct 2018 #39

If you are going to use a word... tonedevil Oct 2018 #47

So just offend a huge part of the Dem party base? What bullshit. brush Oct 2018 #49

Do you think it causes less offense... tonedevil Oct 2018 #50

Why else would I say it? Listen to African Americans when they tell you what offends them... brush Oct 2018 #55

I must admit to confusion... tonedevil Oct 2018 #57

Well just stay away from it then and don't tell people to own/use it. brush Oct 2018 #60

As I indicated... tonedevil Oct 2018 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author d_r Oct 2018 #54

Here's my problem - violetpastille Oct 2018 #56

The sentiment is also messed up EffieBlack Oct 2018 #35

Thanks for that input, Effie. I was viewing it only from a male perspective... brush Oct 2018 #41

White women like Yoko Ono? melman Oct 2018 #45

I have come to feel... tonedevil Oct 2018 #46

We make her paint her face and dance. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2018 #2

Indeed ... BigOleDummy Oct 2018 #8

I Remember That Quote itcfish Oct 2018 #28

I read the first line and said, BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #3

+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #5

I have that album too. I knew immediately the point Bette was trying to make. nt SunSeeker Oct 2018 #7

+++++++++++ HAB911 Oct 2018 #21

+1000 byronius Oct 2018 #51

I knew exactly where the quote came from... 2naSalit Oct 2018 #6

I, too, knew the quote... BUT Dorian Gray Oct 2018 #9

"The sentiment compares the suffering of two suppressed groups and marginalizes one for the other." Behind the Aegis Oct 2018 #11

I hear you Dorian Gray Oct 2018 #12

The "so and so" is generally "Palestinians" in those comparisons oberliner Oct 2018 #14

I don't think it marginalizes the suffering of black people mythology Oct 2018 #19

It does indeed marginalize black people - especially black women EffieBlack Oct 2018 #36

Is OK, Bette. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2018 #10

You sum it up MFM008 Oct 2018 #13

We? Fullduplexxx Oct 2018 #15

She's not wrong, though. alarimer Oct 2018 #16

She is wrong - imagine saying "Jews are the c*nts of the world" EffieBlack Oct 2018 #37

This Woman Wouldn't RobinA Oct 2018 #59

Never doubted Bette for a nano second. riversedge Oct 2018 #17

me either bdamomma Oct 2018 #69

I bet most of the angry people have no idea who John Lennon or Yoko Ono are. Oneironaut Oct 2018 #18

I love Bette and revered John and Yoko and I found it offensive EffieBlack Oct 2018 #66

I had to really study to figure out what people were objecting... LAS14 Oct 2018 #23

A white person referring to the "white race" is the same as saying women are the n*iggers of the EffieBlack Oct 2018 #38

Ach! NO. MountCleaners Oct 2018 #25

Oh yes. violetpastille Oct 2018 #58

I see no reason to apologize. N/T WeekiWater Oct 2018 #27

Really? Black women were continually raped and sexually assaulted by White slave owners... HipChick Oct 2018 #29

That is correct. WeekiWater Oct 2018 #32

If women are the "n*ggers of the world," what does that make black women who've been "n*ggers" EffieBlack Oct 2018 #40

Less than. WeekiWater Oct 2018 #43

He will also be taking rights away from black people, rights that white women EffieBlack Oct 2018 #67

Do You Purposely RobinA Oct 2018 #61

There is a book violetpastille Oct 2018 #70

She needed to. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #33

It was a terrible line when faux-femininst John Lennon said it Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2018 #42

The apology is appropriate and refreshing eleny Oct 2018 #44

Next the knives will come out for Patti Smith maxsolomon Oct 2018 #48

I wouldn't blame people if they DID take offense MountCleaners Oct 2018 #53

Well, obviously people DO take offense. That's my point. The words offend. maxsolomon Oct 2018 #63

So she is apologizing for Yoko Ono? tymorial Oct 2018 #52

No, She's Apologizing RobinA Oct 2018 #62

Or maybe she's sensitive and empathetic and willing to listen and learn and then EffieBlack Oct 2018 #68

I had to deal with a butt hurt male yesterday TexasBushwhacker Oct 2018 #64