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38. Pretty sure states cannot secede from states

Fri Oct 5, 2018, 03:42 PM

Oct 2018

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and even if they could it would end up being a zero sum game, because then low population states would just break off in response to be over represented in the electoral college. The only way to actually fix this is to actually add states. All the U.S. territories and D.C. are largely populated by minority groups so making them states would serve as a great counter balance to states like Wyoming being over represented in the electoral college.

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Alaska, Arizona, Maine, and West Virginia contain just over 3% of the U.S. population. [View all] SubjectTrip Oct 2018 OP

I think I read once that Los Angeles County Stargleamer Oct 2018 #1

To go a level deeper, Virginia by political county maps, appears all red. empedocles Oct 2018 #3

All of which just became irrelevant. quakerboy Oct 2018 #35

Yep! moose65 Oct 2018 #14

While NY, CA, FLA, have all of 6 Senators. empedocles Oct 2018 #2

To say nothing of our nonsensical primary scheduling traditions. sandensea Oct 2018 #22

It's mind boggling to me that Cali or NY doesn't take charge of this. Ligyron Oct 2018 #26

Isn't it though. sandensea Oct 2018 #36

Would requiring a supermajority help, or Ilsa Oct 2018 #4

Either that or let the States be Autonomous MarcA Oct 2018 #5

It's time for the issue of the make up of the senate to get more people angry Johonny Oct 2018 #6

I agree n/t dajoki Oct 2018 #7

Senate reps could be based on size of largest states BSdetect Oct 2018 #8

Yep. Scurrilous Oct 2018 #9

A Parliamentary system would have rammed through ACA repeal in about a month. brooklynite Oct 2018 #10

You may be underestimating Republican ineptness mythology Oct 2018 #12

It would not have been the ACA, it would have been universal health care they would have tried Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #15

It would have produced treestar Oct 2018 #17

and if the vote was in the House instead of the Senate? Jersey Devil Oct 2018 #11

It will be different next year louis c Oct 2018 #25

Add in Wyoming and I wonder if they would be less than 3% of the population eleny Oct 2018 #13

More in proportion treestar Oct 2018 #19

Wyoming, SD, ND and Alaska combined NewJeffCT Oct 2018 #24

Very true treestar Oct 2018 #16

I've read several posts.... moose65 Oct 2018 #18

I think by 2040 Alpeduez21 Oct 2018 #33

That also impacts gerrymandering in House districts. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #40

Half of the Senators (25 states worth) are elected by 18% of the US population. RockRaven Oct 2018 #20

Bill Maher often makes that reference about population and representation. pdsimdars Oct 2018 #21

I wonder how much the population of Maine and Alaska compare to Maricopa County in AZ sweetloukillbot Oct 2018 #23

Thought The Same Thing When Flake Made His Move DallasNE Oct 2018 #27

Reminds me of Trump winning the election because of a very small number of votes n/t budkin Oct 2018 #28

Changing to a parliamentary system is not constitutionally possible standingtall Oct 2018 #29

When we get some actual power Puerto Rico needs to be a state. Ligyron Oct 2018 #30

We should expand the court first standingtall Oct 2018 #31

But wait, there's more. MarvinGardens Oct 2018 #32

Pretty sure states cannot secede from states standingtall Oct 2018 #38

It has happened a few times. MarvinGardens Oct 2018 #39

Those were all before the civil war standingtall Oct 2018 #41

So agree! zentrum Oct 2018 #34

Wouldn't be so bad if the house hadn't been warped Bradical79 Oct 2018 #37