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DFW

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33. Oh, you'd be surprised what a person can put up with.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 05:35 AM
Oct 2018

I know people from the former East Germany who spent months in jail for the crime of having a coin collection. Before 1989, they used to shoot their own people trying to go over the Berlin Wall. I've been interrogated in East Berlin in a windowless room where I was the only one without a gun, an East German uniform or the right to stand up without permission. I've visited Caribbean islands steeped in poverty you couldn't believe. I visited Cuba in the 1980s, got followed everywhere by the secret police (and I was there at THEIR government's invitation), and pleaded with by people on the street who had a keen eye for who was a westerner, and who was not.

This doesn't mean shut up and count your blessings. It means we have something worth fighting for, and I say this as one who has been living abroad for years. But I go back several times a year, still keep my connections with the States, still make lots of contributions to candidates and causes I believe in, and keep in touch with people back home that I agree with AND with whom I disagree. Moving abroad may be a solution, but paradise is nowhere. For all the people extolling the virtues of the Nordic countries, I wonder how many live there and speak the language? I don't live there, but I speak Swedish well, and go up there on occasion. They are struggling with a growing nasty neo-Nazi rightist movement nurtured by preventable stupidity on the left. The number of evil-looking skinheads on Swedish streets is unnerving. It's no paradise up there, either.

EVERY country here in Europe has its issues. My wife is German, has retired from her job as a social worker, but keeps busy doing--what else? Social work. She volunteers with remedial help at a German elementary school. Why? Because the vaunted German educational system is very Darwinian, and leaves behind children who do not learn as quickly as others. Indeed, it wanted to prevent my elder daughter from going to college because her high school teachers said she didn't speak up enough in class (she was shy by nature), and gave her bad grades for it. She ended up going to college in the USA and had to ask me just before graduation what a "valedictorian" was and why did it mean she had to give a speech in English in front of 1000 people? In Germany, she would have ended up waiting on tables. I'm here because both my wife (she's the only one left with a living parent, and her mom speaks no English) and my job demanded it.

If you have nothing holding you down, by all means check out your alternatives, but check them out THOROUGHLY. The grass is not always greener, even if it looks that way from afar.

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Take a bus to Canada donkeypoofed Oct 2018 #1
Canada won't take me unless I have a highly skilled position like medicine or computers. OliverQ Oct 2018 #3
A lot of people don't realize that. BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #7
Greed is what is truly killing this country. roamer65 Oct 2018 #11
lagom Celerity Oct 2018 #16
Thank you! BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #45
Yes, I like that philosophy too.... FM123 Oct 2018 #38
Maybe you can sneak across their border pintobean Oct 2018 #34
Sounds like Utopia when compared to this mess of a former nation. democratisphere Oct 2018 #31
. struggle4progress Oct 2018 #2
Flight or fight WhiteTara Oct 2018 #4
"Find some green space." Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #37
Thank you. WhiteTara Oct 2018 #41
Join the club. Laffy Kat Oct 2018 #5
a friend is going under grandparents KT2000 Oct 2018 #20
Not all our immigrants are "highly skilled" donkeypoofed Oct 2018 #6
Don't despair!! Lunabell Oct 2018 #8
Vote. awesomerwb1 Oct 2018 #9
Wow, you know OliverQ personally uppityperson Oct 2018 #13
Amazing comeback. awesomerwb1 Oct 2018 #15
Thank you. I've only met about 5 other there but wouldn't think of telling them to not uppityperson Oct 2018 #17
Snap! lunatica Oct 2018 #46
I have to say k-dub Oct 2018 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2018 #18
If you live near Canada, there is another option. roamer65 Oct 2018 #12
That is false Fiendish Thingy Oct 2018 #40
Ya cant fight here if you dont live here. Separation Oct 2018 #14
This. Except for the I-could-emigrate-easily-and-live-well part. SuprstitionAintthWay Oct 2018 #39
This country is more than the stuff you read on DU. wasupaloopa Oct 2018 #19
I agree Raine Oct 2018 #22
As a proud citizen of the California Republic, I completely agree.... Pachamama Oct 2018 #25
FFS! A patriot stays and fights for his country before running away. Doodley Oct 2018 #21
This is my country Norbert Oct 2018 #23
I understand the feeling, but frogmarch Oct 2018 #24
+1000 Pachamama Oct 2018 #26
My unsolicited advice, take some time off, then come back and vote. That is the only way things still_one Oct 2018 #27
This is what Vladimir Putin wants. secondwind Oct 2018 #28
Dan Rather has words for this: ariadne0614 Oct 2018 #29
For people like me rownesheck Oct 2018 #30
what state do you live in ? JI7 Oct 2018 #32
Oh, you'd be surprised what a person can put up with. DFW Oct 2018 #33
steppenwolf 7 -- renegade Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #44
Take your rage to the campaign trail. Make calls. Knock doors. Donate. Vote. And bring friends. LBM20 Oct 2018 #35
Buck up Little Camper. I feel the same way sometimes, we all do. We're not giving up njhoneybadger Oct 2018 #36
When I get to thinking that way, I think about my uncle Joe nuxvomica Oct 2018 #42
It's already a world war. Iterate Oct 2018 #43
Same here... I'm wavering between moving away and doing myself in. Still In Wisconsin Oct 2018 #47
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