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Demsrule86

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17. Without his vote, we get nothing.

Reply to In It to Win It (Reply #13)

Sun Oct 7, 2018, 05:55 AM

Oct 2018

What many who trashed Pres. Obama in the 2010 midterm don't understand is that was the best we could do and it was a start. If we ever get universal care, it will be because of the courageous Democrats in the House some who were conservadems who gave up their seats for healthcare. And what did we do? A fair number on our side trashed Pres. Obama and did not have his back so two years into his term, we were done in terms of implementing policy. You want some policy not everything but some than we need conservadems to get a majority because without a majority, we get nothing.

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Joe Manchin was going with the side that had the votes.. [View all] Casprings Oct 2018 OP

Exactly. Manchin is an asshole but he must be re-elected. yardwork Oct 2018 #1

Well put Zambero Oct 2018 #2

Isn't Manchin the most powerful Democrat in Washington? nt doc03 Oct 2018 #4

Lol. Definitely not. yardwork Oct 2018 #6

I've been thinking that Dems have to win a net of 2 seats in the Senate but I'm thinking a net 3... In It to Win It Oct 2018 #12

I urge you to review the history of Joe effing LIEberman. shanny Oct 2018 #3

Perhaps he would not have been hellbent on revenge against us had he not been primaried. Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #7

jaysus H shanny Oct 2018 #8

With Lieberman's vote, we basically got a watered-down version of the healthcare system we wanted In It to Win It Oct 2018 #13

Lieberman removed the plan to lower the age of medicare eligibility to 55 Merlot Oct 2018 #14

Without his vote, we get nothing. Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #17

It is still BS in my book. vsrazdem Oct 2018 #5

Manchin is a Democrat...and unless he/she joins the party, they can't be considered a Democrat. Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #9

I've never complained about Bernie and I'm not complaining about Manchin's vote. Kaleva Oct 2018 #15

Sen. Sanders had infuriated me with his rhetoric...and I don't care for him ...but he votes with us Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #18

yeah he really don't stand for anything. rockfordfile Oct 2018 #10

Rosy speculation. JDC Oct 2018 #11

I'm not convinced him voting 'yes' was the most politically expedient thing to do. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #16

NO, not in a state where Trump won by what 30 points and remains popular. Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #19

He was asked that question and he denied it.... Joe941 Oct 2018 #20