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In reply to the discussion: I can't live in this country anymore. [View all]SuprstitionAintthWay
(386 posts)American politics are indeed ugly, brutal, sickening even, and our democracy itself is threatened, being step by step taken over by insatiable greedy plutocrats.
But there are very few pockets of the world in which the national politics (or else economies) aren't either (a) permanent running disasters, or (b) also trending badly of late, and already scary messes too or seemingly on the downslope in that direction. I suppose one could emigrate and totally ignore the politics (or poverry) of one's new home. But if disengagement is one's remedy, that can be done right here.
The English speaking exceptions to these patterns are Canada and New Zealand. The Kiwis are sounding like they're already tired of Americans with the resources buying bug-out homes down there and driving up their real estate prices, and they're starting to restrict it.
The most sane, civilized, advanced, economically sound, democratic, and contented non-Anglo region I believe is Scandinavia. And nearly everybody's 2nd language there is English. But all four countries' plus Iceland's total population is, what... can't be much more than 25 or 30 million? Those countries can't handle and won't accept a lot of us fleeing our nation of 325 million, any more than it can be the refuge for the probably 100s of millions of people who want out of much more intolerable conditions elsewhere in the world and would love to emigrate there. A few can escape to Scandinavia, but not many.
So there's a shortage of true refuges from the kind of shit we're facing here. For most of us the best and most realistic option is stay, and either fight, or disengage.
'Stay and fight" is what our country and the rest of the world need us to do.