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peggysue2

(12,536 posts)
37. This is one of the dumbest arguments I've read yet
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 11:48 PM
Oct 2018

We are on the eve of the biggest election of our lifetimes, the result of which will determine the course of this country for good or ill and we're entertaining the idea of dumping Manchin and what? Hand the seat to Morrisey? Give the Republicans (who by the way are stewing over this race) another win??

Insanity doesn't begin to describe a political move/intention like this.

We have one shot at this, people. We need every seat, even the one filled by Manchin. The time to argue over his questionable stances, votes and political attitudes was during the primary. Not now.

Crystal-ball gazing about what Manchin may or may not do in the future is pointless and counterproductive. Yeah, everyone's pissed about his vote on Kavanaugh, a vote that ultimately CHANGED NOTHING. The Republicans had the votes; we didn't. End of story. We lost the battle but there's still a war raging over the direction and soul of the fucking country.

This is a do-or-die moment. Eyes on the Prize which btw has a due date:

November 6th. Elect Democrats, Everywhere. Win this thing in the numbers that cannot be questioned or debated or fudged. Push these traitorous weasels into the sea so that we can start repairing the damage that the Trumpsters are exacting on this country every day they're in power.

Stop this nonsense. For the love of God, stop it right now. This is our moment to change the course of history. It's all on us and we dare not fail.

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Think you are wrong. He would not switch parties. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #1
A Republicrat? n/t mitch96 Oct 2018 #18
And if we take the podium from McConnell with him as a Democrat it will be all worthwhile. dem4decades Oct 2018 #2
I sincreley believe that if we take the gavel Recursion Oct 2018 #7
If that were true why would he even run? dem4decades Oct 2018 #10
WRONG!!!!!!!!! Time to move on. We need a big tent and candidates who represent THEIR districts! LBM20 Oct 2018 #3
He has *literally said* he is open to switching parties Recursion Oct 2018 #5
The only alternative is to allow the Republican to win now. yardwork Oct 2018 #11
He is from a RED state. He votes with the Dems 75% of the time. Enough of this SHIT! LBM20 Oct 2018 #16
No. He's the Democratic candidate and we need the numbers. yardwork Oct 2018 #4
I do not believe he will stay a Democrat Recursion Oct 2018 #6
Yep, he will switch parties. Va Lefty Oct 2018 #8
So you're advocating to vote for the Republican now?! yardwork Oct 2018 #9
I'll roll the dice. Drahthaardogs Oct 2018 #20
Then dump him when he actually switches parties. Kaleva Oct 2018 #21
"I do not believe he will stay a Democrat" - I'm sure his opponent will remain a Republican. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2018 #28
Using energy to go after Manchin is playing checkers. Socal31 Oct 2018 #12
I fully expect a Joe Lieberman-type move on his part. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2018 #13
Shit. Manchin might even go full Trumpanzee and crawl up his ass like Lindsey dalton99a Oct 2018 #14
He isn't saying a damn thing. While detestable that he would consider Trump in the pool of still_one Oct 2018 #15
I have long expected a Nighthorse /Lieberman move from him. Autumn Oct 2018 #17
Well I've suspected the same but remember Lieberman was in a blue state. JHan Oct 2018 #19
He could be waiting for the right time till he's needed. He's open to Autumn Oct 2018 #31
Thing is I don't sense a rift between him and Dems. JHan Oct 2018 #33
Maybe you don't sense it but his statement about Democrats leaves the Autumn Oct 2018 #38
Well his vote on Kav was inconsequential - terrible yes but didn't change anything. JHan Oct 2018 #39
Lieberman didn't switch parties either. He lost the Democratic Primary and then ran and won as an I OhioBlue Oct 2018 #32
thx for that reminder ++ JHan Oct 2018 #34
Why does he stay in our party? phylny Oct 2018 #22
He was their Governor as a Democrat. He's been a lifelong Democrat. It's his party as much as ours. pnwmom Oct 2018 #24
He's saying that one month before his own election and two years out from Trump's. pnwmom Oct 2018 #23
Let's see. A Dem fighting in a very red state who says he *might* switch, or kcr Oct 2018 #25
wrong handmade34 Oct 2018 #26
Agreed Snackshack Oct 2018 #27
Disagree aeromanKC Oct 2018 #29
I have NEVER been one to say "save the blue dogs". denbot Oct 2018 #30
Maybe he'll run as an Independent... SidDithers Oct 2018 #35
his GOP opponent is far worse. pansypoo53219 Oct 2018 #36
This is one of the dumbest arguments I've read yet peggysue2 Oct 2018 #37
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