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JHan

(10,173 posts)
58. And where is the collective responsibility...
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 11:31 AM
Oct 2018

For the treatment of Monica?

It was columnists like Maureen Dowd ( and others) who wrote disgusting op-eds making fun of her.

Comedians made her the punch line of jokes. She was pilloried on SNL. She couldn't depend on the support of people calling themselves "friend" - Linda Tripp for example. And she was treated terribly by Starr and his investigators ( including Kavanaugh).

These things happened, not as a result of the affair itself, but the aftermath after the affair once it became known. And Monica herself has noted her affair with the President was wrong, and Clinton has paid a price.

Just in case you have forgotten the Starr Report and the context of the 90's maybe you should read this:

During the months leading up to Clinton’s impeachment in 1999, the Office of Independent Counsel deployed its full forensic authority to investigate every salacious claim or rumor about him. Included in that expansion of Starr’s probe were the cases of Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broaddrick.

Keen as Starr was to compile a thoroughly damning impeachment dossier against Clinton, both of those cases presented factual and legal problems that proved impossible for him to overcome. (Oddly, the New York Times noted this week that the Broaddrick and Willey cases were omitted from Starr’s impeachment referral, but neglects to reveal that he investigated them thoroughly.)


http://www.nationalmemo.com/reckoning-bill-clinton-dont-forget-starrs-70-million-probe

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Imagine what it would have been like with the Clintons back in the WH. democratisphere Oct 2018 #1
There'd be a lot of criticism, and many'd never know how great she is compared Hoyt Oct 2018 #6
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They do look good! SammyWinstonJack Oct 2018 #2
Both of them were made for the White House I swear... TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #4
Agree! SammyWinstonJack Oct 2018 #16
I still love both of them! Always will. Only Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt Glorfindel Oct 2018 #3
History will be kind to the Clintons. TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #7
Love this! mcar Oct 2018 #5
K&R Scurrilous Oct 2018 #8
A lot of blue in that photo oberliner Oct 2018 #9
I love how strategic they always are. TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #10
💙 BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2018 #62
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You had me until you listed the Assault Weapons Ban. aikoaiko Oct 2018 #11
This makes me nervous. zentrum Oct 2018 #12
Doesn't change their experience or insight. TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #15
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What could have been loyalsister Oct 2018 #43
The rhetorical framing regarding the recent wave of sexual misconduct allegations is a bit off. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2018 #59
Great post! IluvPitties Oct 2018 #82
Thank you. Very well done. yardwork Oct 2018 #112
Tone deaf AkFemDem Oct 2018 #13
All women should be heard. The women who accused Bill Clinton were heard loudly and clearly. TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #14
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Current demographics btw... AkFemDem Oct 2018 #24
Hillary has a face and a legacy of women's rights that should never ever be denied her. Bfd Oct 2018 #29
But that's the point. zentrum Oct 2018 #46
Omg. Never mind. Bfd Oct 2018 #49
For MOST the point is spite, Zentrum. Sad to say, but real. Hortensis Oct 2018 #64
Wasn't talking zentrum Oct 2018 #114
Me too. You may imagine you're spraying reason, Hortensis Oct 2018 #120
Right...women are easily "confused" by a woman who is "painted" by her husband's past... ehrnst Oct 2018 #113
What leads you to allege the book tour is the same as "the face of the Democratic party?" LanternWaste Oct 2018 #79
This is a tired distraction. Clinton was and still popular after that little impeachment R B Garr Oct 2018 #87
Bill Clinton's legacy has been tainted by his infidelities. He was investigated. TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #25
And working on behalf of Ken Starr was Roger Stone & Brett Kavanaugh. Bfd Oct 2018 #30
AND it was investigated and fucking Ken Starr only proved Gennifer Flowers and Lewinsky JI7 Oct 2018 #28
The problem is that zentrum Oct 2018 #44
I think you're reaching a bit... JHan Oct 2018 #56
And where is the collective responsibility... JHan Oct 2018 #58
Do Democratic voters need to "believe the women"? Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2018 #60
Yes. How dare Bill and Hillary Clinton exist. They should just not exist anymore. Drunken Irishman Oct 2018 #26
Tone deaf!?? Bfd Oct 2018 #27
We support Hillary and Bill RandiFan1290 Oct 2018 #47
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My favorite opening to a SOTU address ever @8:00 minutes in ffr Oct 2018 #17
To this day, no one can beat Bill in his prime!! TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #18
1996 AIDS Memorial Quilt & the enormous role Pres Bill & Hillary played in AIDS/HIV funding Bfd Oct 2018 #19
Why isn't this information commonly known to the public and younger gays? TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #23
Hillary's 2016 campaign was endorsed by the Human Rights Campaign Bfd Oct 2018 #38
I was there. DURHAM D Oct 2018 #37
Wow. You represented a moment in history that altered the direction of that human tragedy Bfd Oct 2018 #40
Saw the Clintons but did not talk with them, too much security. DURHAM D Oct 2018 #54
Wow. You spent moments of your life with the top eschelon of all that is good in humanity. Bfd Oct 2018 #55
Thank you for this, Bfd. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #118
Your welcome Bfd Oct 2018 #121
They look wonderful...I heard they're going Upthevibe Oct 2018 #20
2 for 1....what a great thing that was...yet we let Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #21
Ever since Hillary burst onto the scene... TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #33
Hillary tried to give us health care in the 90s BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #31
People forget Hillary's first national fight after Bill became President TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #34
Americans have a political memory of a gnat. BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #36
I sure haven't forgotten. llmart Oct 2018 #66
Those were the days...I miss the Clinton years so much. lunamagica Oct 2018 #32
The clintons will be near me on Dec 4 Gothmog Oct 2018 #35
I want to go as well. TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #39
Another good pic - you can tell Hill and Bill respect each other. With respect there is love. iluvtennis Oct 2018 #41
God they look good!! TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #42
K&R brer cat Oct 2018 #45
They came here to Germany for Oktoberfest DFW Oct 2018 #48
They are respected & loved in Germany, a country who well knows the threat of Bfd Oct 2018 #51
Oktoberfest is very regional DFW Oct 2018 #53
The Clintons and the Obamas are always welcome in Germany DFW Oct 2018 #123
they do look good. bdamomma Oct 2018 #50
Aging like fine wine!!!! TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #117
I loved that purple gown (my favorite color). I remember how I felt on Inauguration night. We need livetohike Oct 2018 #52
The USA is about to turn into a totalitarian police state and... pangaia Oct 2018 #57
Stay here and help!!! That is all they have been doing. Bfd Oct 2018 #105
Beautiful pic in blue NastyRiffraff Oct 2018 #61
Loveeeeeeeeee ittttttttttt!! onetexan Oct 2018 #63
Best arguement for no term limits. n/t Mr.Bill Oct 2018 #65
Morning Joe Scumbag lillypaddle Oct 2018 #67
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?????? JHan Oct 2018 #70
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There are new people, I am perplexed. JHan Oct 2018 #73
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So there are new people, so again, what was your point? JHan Oct 2018 #76
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Oh so you just hate them. Okay. JHan Oct 2018 #84
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You're incapable of bringing a balanced view about them given your replies in this thread. JHan Oct 2018 #92
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What a tired and uninformed trope. Feel free to discuss any of the "issues" R B Garr Oct 2018 #75
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The GOP were in control of Congress. JHan Oct 2018 #89
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You tell me. JHan Oct 2018 #94
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Nah I want you to tell me what you think happened, contextualize 90's politics for me.. JHan Oct 2018 #96
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NAFTA was not a decisive factor in 1994, sorry. JHan Oct 2018 #101
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dude you are the one positing an anti-clinton position here. JHan Oct 2018 #103
Ha! The troll has left the building. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #106
LOL and I was just asking questions. JHan Oct 2018 #107
... NurseJackie Oct 2018 #108
You were awesome! Great questions and they completely R B Garr Oct 2018 #109
The 90's were wild... because how is this real: JHan Oct 2018 #111
No, it hasn't been "washed away." Those are the facts of his tenure and they are not R B Garr Oct 2018 #98
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Umm....they're not running for anything. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2018 #77
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Absolutely irreverent. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #85
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Awesome! This is great news. Both must be enjoying the spectacle of how R B Garr Oct 2018 #78
History will say Bill was one of the best Presidents in American history TreeStarsForever Oct 2018 #116
They should have 'Pink Martini' as the tour band! Bonx Oct 2018 #104
AWESOME! mattiusr Oct 2018 #110
K&R ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #115
Kick!!! Cha Oct 2018 #119
I voted for both of them but never loved either one. elocs Oct 2018 #122
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