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In reply to the discussion: The Clintons are going on a world tour (and damn do they look good!) [View all]JHan
(10,173 posts)58. And where is the collective responsibility...
For the treatment of Monica?
It was columnists like Maureen Dowd ( and others) who wrote disgusting op-eds making fun of her.
Comedians made her the punch line of jokes. She was pilloried on SNL. She couldn't depend on the support of people calling themselves "friend" - Linda Tripp for example. And she was treated terribly by Starr and his investigators ( including Kavanaugh).
These things happened, not as a result of the affair itself, but the aftermath after the affair once it became known. And Monica herself has noted her affair with the President was wrong, and Clinton has paid a price.
Just in case you have forgotten the Starr Report and the context of the 90's maybe you should read this:
During the months leading up to Clintons impeachment in 1999, the Office of Independent Counsel deployed its full forensic authority to investigate every salacious claim or rumor about him. Included in that expansion of Starrs probe were the cases of Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broaddrick.
Keen as Starr was to compile a thoroughly damning impeachment dossier against Clinton, both of those cases presented factual and legal problems that proved impossible for him to overcome. (Oddly, the New York Times noted this week that the Broaddrick and Willey cases were omitted from Starrs impeachment referral, but neglects to reveal that he investigated them thoroughly.)
http://www.nationalmemo.com/reckoning-bill-clinton-dont-forget-starrs-70-million-probe
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The Clintons are going on a world tour (and damn do they look good!) [View all]
TreeStarsForever
Oct 2018
OP
The rhetorical framing regarding the recent wave of sexual misconduct allegations is a bit off.
Tommy_Carcetti
Oct 2018
#59
All women should be heard. The women who accused Bill Clinton were heard loudly and clearly.
TreeStarsForever
Oct 2018
#14
Hillary has a face and a legacy of women's rights that should never ever be denied her.
Bfd
Oct 2018
#29
Right...women are easily "confused" by a woman who is "painted" by her husband's past...
ehrnst
Oct 2018
#113
What leads you to allege the book tour is the same as "the face of the Democratic party?"
LanternWaste
Oct 2018
#79
This is a tired distraction. Clinton was and still popular after that little impeachment
R B Garr
Oct 2018
#87
Bill Clinton's legacy has been tainted by his infidelities. He was investigated.
TreeStarsForever
Oct 2018
#25
AND it was investigated and fucking Ken Starr only proved Gennifer Flowers and Lewinsky
JI7
Oct 2018
#28
Yes. How dare Bill and Hillary Clinton exist. They should just not exist anymore.
Drunken Irishman
Oct 2018
#26
1996 AIDS Memorial Quilt & the enormous role Pres Bill & Hillary played in AIDS/HIV funding
Bfd
Oct 2018
#19
Why isn't this information commonly known to the public and younger gays?
TreeStarsForever
Oct 2018
#23
Wow. You represented a moment in history that altered the direction of that human tragedy
Bfd
Oct 2018
#40
Wow. You spent moments of your life with the top eschelon of all that is good in humanity.
Bfd
Oct 2018
#55
People forget Hillary's first national fight after Bill became President
TreeStarsForever
Oct 2018
#34
Another good pic - you can tell Hill and Bill respect each other. With respect there is love.
iluvtennis
Oct 2018
#41
I loved that purple gown (my favorite color). I remember how I felt on Inauguration night. We need
livetohike
Oct 2018
#52
You're incapable of bringing a balanced view about them given your replies in this thread.
JHan
Oct 2018
#92
Nah I want you to tell me what you think happened, contextualize 90's politics for me..
JHan
Oct 2018
#96
No, it hasn't been "washed away." Those are the facts of his tenure and they are not
R B Garr
Oct 2018
#98
History will say Bill was one of the best Presidents in American history
TreeStarsForever
Oct 2018
#116