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In reply to the discussion: Obama: Dems don't get enough credit for willingness to cut Social Security and Medicare [View all]TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)Who the hell is going to consider voting Democratic but only if we display willingness to cut Social Security and Medicare? Who the hell is this all important segment of the electorate.
You know what? Fuck em. I'd seriously prefer to lose without them than win with them because you don't have to win to maintain. Nary a TeaPubliKlan President nor any TeaPubliKlan has killed the programs yet. That takes collusion.
I don't buy it, Obama went to the well over and over, knowing it previous overture had done nothing but piss of Democrats and allowed the waters to be muddied on who is on what side.
I think I'm only slightly less concerned that he STILL thinks this is fruitful tactic is the point man, than I am about his intent which considering his relentless pursuit of this bum assed "bargain" is likely exactly what he is actually trying to do. In fact, there is nothing to gain from ceding the frame at all and the error should have been repudiated and allowed to teach a distinct message, if you even in jest or gamesmanship, even think out loud about cutting these fundamental safety nets we will savage you and cast you out on animal reflex which in turn reminds the TeaPubliKlans that if they want that fight it will mean blood and teeth on the floor, at bare minimum.
Standing for something will earn more votes than any of this phony ass "chess" shit, granting the best of intentions.