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134. Many, many direct quotes.

Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:25 AM

Aug 2012

A great post by eomer:

What President Obama meant is plain. It doesn't require interpretation.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1119041

Some I compiled a while back (some overlap):

Be careful what you ask for. Here's your reality sandwich.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1660734&mesg_id=1661130

And, of course, Obama's own words:

"Essentially what we had offered Speaker Boehner was over a trillion dollars in cuts to discretionary spending, both domestic and defense. We then offered an additional $650 billion in cuts to entitlement programs -- Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security."

-President Obama, July 22, 2011

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/07/22/remarks-president

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Obama: Dems don't get enough credit for willingness to cut Social Security and Medicare [View all] MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 OP

Not a "broken record", Manny. Bonobo Aug 2012 #1

Sorry. MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #5

No crap from me. I am for truth and facts regardless of how inconvenient. Sticking one's sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #22

Sabrina, without you and a few others I'd feel pretty awful. MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #27

I AM WITH YOU MANNY Skittles Aug 2012 #29

ME TOO !!! WillyT Aug 2012 #48

HEAR, HEAR! nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #58

There are more with you than against you. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #82

You can count on me for support, Manny...I'm an old school FDR Dem all the way. whathehell Aug 2012 #97

YARGLE BARGLE BLARGH!!! OnyxCollie Aug 2012 #100

With you. emilyg Aug 2012 #116

You are so correct. That is why we have to destroy the faux "Conservatives" and drive their allies Vincardog Aug 2012 #253

Solidarity!!! bvar22 Aug 2012 #260

This!!! Beartracks Aug 2012 #266

The right thing to do or "good fight" is not always a matter of political party. L0oniX Aug 2012 #267

The war on the 99%, by the 99%, is what really gets to me. obxhead Aug 2012 #270

Good point, Sabrina. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #175

Like Sabrina said, no crap from me. I'm with you all the way on this. Zalatix Aug 2012 #25

K and an R and a riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #2

Erskine Bowles praises Paul Ryan, budget plan KG Aug 2012 #3

That asshole is not in power, and even Obma reject the bowel simple mind plan. /nt still_one Aug 2012 #68

Obama only rejected parts of the plan MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #78

The end is he didn't pursue that further. But entertain this, let's give him the benefit of the still_one Aug 2012 #101

The Bowles-Simpson proposal does not reduce average SS benefits. It increases them. bornskeptic Aug 2012 #199

so, given their reputation and track record ozsea1 Aug 2012 #224

They Have no power to hold to any bargain. bornskeptic Aug 2012 #237

If you're implying that the OP lied ozsea1 Aug 2012 #245

That appears to be incorrect; do you have a source? eomer Aug 2012 #279

Here is another source, an explanation of (and based on) the above source: eomer Aug 2012 #280

Simpson-Bowles eventually cuts average benefit by 22% MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #285

Why did Obama appoint that asshole? rudycantfail Aug 2012 #79

To show he was willing to compromise. That isn't going to happen again I believe if Obama wins still_one Aug 2012 #104

It is naive to believe that President Obama is that naive. rudycantfail Aug 2012 #114

He is not naive, but I believe he thought he could compromise with them. He didn't factor in that still_one Aug 2012 #117

Sell that shit to somebody else rudycantfail Aug 2012 #122

So what are you going to do not vote for president? still_one Aug 2012 #123

That's not your business. rudycantfail Aug 2012 #127

I like the Clash. A lot. MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #128

Manny is right. Vanje Sep 2012 #289

I am stating opinion. You don't like tough!, maybe it is you who are bullshtting people. You don't still_one Aug 2012 #158

I hope so. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #176

Yeah sure there will... SomethingFishy Aug 2012 #214

It was ProSense Aug 2012 #4

Raising the Medicare eligibility age to 67 is a cut in wasteful spending? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #8

You do ProSense Aug 2012 #10

It's widely reported that he proposed it last summer MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #11

No, it wasn't and ProSense Aug 2012 #16

Well.. MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #21

"When he hears" ProSense Aug 2012 #26

Thanks for shining some light on this ProSense. speedoo Aug 2012 #34

It's a bit funny ProSense Aug 2012 #36

Thanks for the sanity, ProSense. SunSeeker Aug 2012 #145

I'm lolz@the fools rushing to rec more lies JNelson6563 Aug 2012 #221

lawl, you forget 2008 so easily. joshcryer Aug 2012 #45

"Everything should be on the table. " ProSense Aug 2012 #59

I just think it's important that he did say it was on the table. joshcryer Aug 2012 #63

Even with a direct quote you peddle this denial. JackRiddler Aug 2012 #110

Yeah, ProSense Aug 2012 #124

Many, many direct quotes. woo me with science Aug 2012 #134

What bugs me is he's criticized for doing what he said he'd do. joshcryer Aug 2012 #161

Thank you! You're absolutely right... and Romney has been trying to paint the cuts that way too! progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #80

DURec leftstreet Aug 2012 #6

K&R tk2kewl Aug 2012 #7

Thats mostly just bi-partisan politik-speak. Calling their bluff. JaneyVee Aug 2012 #9

Sounds good but it is still dumb as dogshit TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #40

I disagree. I believe it was all just political theater. JaneyVee Aug 2012 #57

Tired of theater, I need to be represented me b zola Aug 2012 #131

I completely understand. But w/ GOP obstruction the way it is political theater is all that remains JaneyVee Aug 2012 #171

Even as mere theater such talk should be a "hanging" offense TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #201

+2 bbgrunt Aug 2012 #204

The audience is Independent/Centrist voters who want DC to become unbroken. JaneyVee Aug 2012 #271

+1 what he said limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #62

K&R woo me with science Aug 2012 #12

Priebus: Obama Is ‘Stealing’ From Seniors And Has ‘Blood On His Hands’ ProSense Aug 2012 #13

Are you equating me with Priebus? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #15

No, I'm equating ProSense Aug 2012 #18

"He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else." MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #30

He's good at ProSense Aug 2012 #33

He's been as successful at that MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #42

And jailing the banksters. woo me with science Aug 2012 #69

War is Peace. woo me with science Aug 2012 #37

Spin is righteous. n/t ProSense Aug 2012 #49

That you believe that is patently obvious. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #52

So when ProSense Aug 2012 #61

"their futures are about to be Grand Bargained away" = very well said just1voice Aug 2012 #14

As a lifelong yellow dawg dem I was SHOCKED to hear Obama "offer" cuts in SS and/or Medicare whathehell Aug 2012 #112

Stupid threat hope they enjoy Rmoney presidency julian09 Aug 2012 #226

Excellent points that I tell them, the problem is they don't trust him just1voice Aug 2012 #228

He is not the attorney general, secondly how many jobs would all those charges create? julian09 Aug 2012 #283

It must be frustrating. MNBrewer Aug 2012 #17

I think the only way to settle this is Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #19

No, that ProSense Aug 2012 #23

Has anyone ever riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #35

x2 AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #51

Yes ProSense Aug 2012 #53

amen, riderinthestorm and choie Aug 2012 #73

+1000 Webster Green Aug 2012 #137

No ProSense Aug 2012 #139

+10000000000 Wait Wut Aug 2012 #238

+1000 bvar22 Aug 2012 #192

Prosense, please keep offering facts no matter what....fudrs hate facts big time no matter what the uponit7771 Aug 2012 #164

Nothing to do with the quality of what's in ProSense's posts. His post construction is awful nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #185

We shouldn't have to Doctor_J Aug 2012 #193

I agree Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #208

Keep speaking up, Manny. Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #20

+10000 woo me with science Aug 2012 #46

if you repeat a lie long enough... snooper2 Aug 2012 #47

It would be alot better if we could vote for someone commited to not cutting these programs. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #24

"We are all voting for Obama knowing what the score is." ProSense Aug 2012 #31

Well yeah we all want to prevent it. But I guess limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #39

Who ProSense Aug 2012 #67

The fact that we even have these discussions shows there is a problem. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #118

No, ProSense Aug 2012 #121

Then WHY kurtzapril4 Aug 2012 #257

Keep trying... SidDithers Aug 2012 #28

We will, you Better Believe It! sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #56

You really miss your tombstoned little buddy, eh?...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #88

It is kind of silly, isn't it? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #103

BBI was a long-time troll that you defended day in and day out... SidDithers Aug 2012 #113

You mean like you supported Lozocola and Obamanaut??? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #119

For you, it is a tribute... SidDithers Aug 2012 #120

I'm puzzled. You start a game, I try to play, and you get upset. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #125

I'm not the one that's upset about BBI being shitcanned...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #147

That's hard to believe. You can't seem to forget him. He's always on your mind! sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #151

So many distortions in one post... SidDithers Aug 2012 #173

I would like to thank you for all you do, Manny.... truth2power Aug 2012 #32

There have been many attempts by the Republican Controlled House to cut these programs berni_mccoy Aug 2012 #38

He's secretly ProSense Aug 2012 #41

Don't worry-- I've been assured that offer was just another piece of 8-dimensional chess. Marr Aug 2012 #43

And publicly validating Republican lies about the economy woo me with science Aug 2012 #50

It's also saying to America that the the top Dem rudycantfail Aug 2012 #102

Lol, you got it down perfectly. I thought it was just me. That story is so outlandish sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #169

Yep. It really seemed to me like that whole year and a half or so of the "debt crisis" Marr Aug 2012 #209

But we must take a stand that even though we'll re-elect him DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #44

The difference is one wants to privatize and destroy social security. / nt still_one Aug 2012 #54

"The Obama administration is pushing a set of policy changes... woo me with science Aug 2012 #65

A quote from who, based on what? bhikkhu Aug 2012 #55

The Post Echoes The NRCC's Talking Points TomCADem Aug 2012 #60

"We must do it without putting at risk current retirees, the most vulnerable, or people with..." MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #64

Resembles Scott Brown's Attack On Elizabeth Warren TomCADem Aug 2012 #70

And people ProSense Aug 2012 #75

It's typical. joshcryer Aug 2012 #98

Not only is ProSense Aug 2012 #72

Remind us of what position Carney holds MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #76

It's not President. n/t ProSense Aug 2012 #81

Does he have any association or affiliation with the President? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #94

Yeah, but you do understand that he's not the same person as the President, right? ProSense Aug 2012 #99

What's his job title? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #132

Not President, and his name is not Obama. n/t ProSense Aug 2012 #141

So he wasn't referring to the President's words? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #286

Wow, an actual good reporter. Refusing to accept the double talk. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #74

"It" being "to strengthen Social Security for future generations" bhikkhu Aug 2012 #85

Not All Cuts To Medicare Are Created Equal Tx4obama Aug 2012 #66

Actions speaking too loudly for Manny et al. gulliver Aug 2012 #179

Social Security is in trouble... from our own side. RC Aug 2012 #71

It is just my opinion that you're working for DevonRex Aug 2012 #77

I am working for the other side MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #86

Yes, ProSense Aug 2012 #90

Thank you. Traditional Democrats are the only true Democrats, in my opinion, whathehell Aug 2012 #106

YES!!! AbsoFunkinLutely... uponit7771 Aug 2012 #165

FDR Democrats? Now where have I heard that one before? NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #172

By he time I came back everyone answered DevonRex Aug 2012 #197

So in your opinion, someone standing up for Democratic Principles is 'working for the other side'?? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #89

Spin and ProSense Aug 2012 #93

No spin in stating that protecting SS from Republicans is a Democratic principle. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #126

No ProSense Aug 2012 #144

So stop spinning and mischaracterizing. n/t girl gone mad Aug 2012 #129

You're right ProSense Aug 2012 #143

Let's not forget how Manny replied to this question... SidDithers Aug 2012 #108

Thanks for pointing that out. speedoo Aug 2012 #148

Wow, retroactive support for McCain. ProSense Aug 2012 #153

That explains a lot Sid NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #174

But it's true. The Democratic brand has suffered a major hit leftstreet Aug 2012 #190

I rest my case and it's a damn shame Manny is DevonRex Aug 2012 #202

So asking that Democrats speak out loudly and CLEARLY, (see all the confusion here over sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #215

Sabrina, there is no WE with you and me. Enough is enough. Nt DevonRex Aug 2012 #220

If you are not in support of Democrats pushing their Party to stick to Democratic Principles sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #223

*snort* Better believe it! DevonRex Aug 2012 #231

There, I edited and included it just for you! sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #243

Unreal. JTFrog Aug 2012 #212

Then get him enough senators and congress people arthritisR_US Aug 2012 #83

He started his push with a generational lead in the Senate and a huge advantage in the House TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #210

I'm sorry, I don't understand the point. Are you trying to turn us against the President? progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #84

We'd be foolish to not vote for Obama MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #91

That's ProSense Aug 2012 #95

Good to make noise ahead of time. Melissa G Aug 2012 #109

Ding! Ding! Ding! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #92

Sirota is that you? Are you writing Mitt Romney's speeches these days? He made false.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #87

“In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ~George Orwell DeSwiss Aug 2012 #96

+1 woo me with science Aug 2012 #135

I still remember Obama's Catfood Commission, and it's sequel (Part II): blkmusclmachine Aug 2012 #105

Not gonna happen, just like it didn't a year ago. Hoyt Aug 2012 #107

There is no need for lower increases in SS. In fact, the SS fund is large enough that sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #244

I'm not upset with you. I still believe our whole economic system needs to change. Hoyt Aug 2012 #247

The problem is you do not need to put any of your SS on the table. This is the big lie. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #249

Sorry, I don't believe we can continue to segment everything into separate compartments. Hoyt Aug 2012 #258

No true self respecting TRUE Democrat lobezen Aug 2012 #111

And everybody who knows anything about politics, knows that. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #115

What lobezen said. Cleita Aug 2012 #222

RECompense whatchamacallit Aug 2012 #130

You're quoting an 2-3 hand interpretation as though it were a direct quote, in an article about patrice Aug 2012 #133

Can anyone ProSense Aug 2012 #136

kr. i'm sorry you're taking so much flak for posting inconvenient facts. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #138

The OP is an opinion not facts. n/t ProSense Aug 2012 #140

the op is reporting quotes from legitimate news sources. take it up with them if you think they're HiPointDem Aug 2012 #142

It's not a quote from the President. n/t ProSense Aug 2012 #146

It's a quote from the premier news organization in the country, the "paper of record," supposedly HiPointDem Aug 2012 #154

Yeah, but ProSense Aug 2012 #155

there are reporting intelligence types in every major news organization, but it's the only news HiPointDem Aug 2012 #157

Again, it's still not the President's quote. ProSense Aug 2012 #159

then let the president deny it & take a firm public stand about cuts. why doesn't he *do* that? HiPointDem Aug 2012 #160

...and let Obama deny he raped goats too....see how that works? uponit7771 Aug 2012 #166

no, i see you making a ridiculous comparison. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #168

no, its a sensible enough comparison Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #187

hardly. goat-fucking isn't a political action. social security is a very popular program, and the HiPointDem Aug 2012 #219

Any reforms = cuts. joshcryer Aug 2012 #163

THE. MEDIA. Remember? PRIVATE agendas implemented through public resources, e.g. WAR on Iraq. nt patrice Aug 2012 #218

What are we fighting for really? johnlucas Aug 2012 #149

Democratic majority = fudr meme, knowing damn well it wasn't a controlling majority after GOP change uponit7771 Aug 2012 #167

Screw a Democratic majority. Give me a Progressive majority johnlucas Aug 2012 #198

This whole site used to be that way. bvar22 Aug 2012 #254

Has Obama ever spoken about "Lockbox"? Bonobo Aug 2012 #150

Maybe he doesn't want to conjure up visions of Gore's losing campaign. SunSeeker Aug 2012 #152

Couldn't he come up with a different term and still assure us that SS would be off limits? Bonobo Aug 2012 #156

I think he believe SS is unsustainable without reforms. joshcryer Aug 2012 #162

You mean other than "I won't cut SS benefits"? Sure. Any suggestions? SunSeeker Aug 2012 #213

Obama did throw out suggestions for the Chained CPI in 2011. joshcryer Aug 2012 #252

I think the President comes from a different generation... kentuck Aug 2012 #170

Where is that quote where the President spoke highly of Ronald Reagan NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #191

True that & He's never REALLY had to look for work. Has worked "with" those who have, but ... patrice Aug 2012 #217

So as soon as the election is over, Obama kills Social Security. That's your new prediction. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #177

That's not a direct quote BlueToTheBone Aug 2012 #178

It's the greatest hoodwink ever. leeroysphitz Aug 2012 #180

You really fucked up this time didn't you Manny? NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #181

Should I post The Times' retraction MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #182

You expect the President to deny whatever some FDR LaRouchie accuses him of on an anonymous website NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #184

The NY Times is an anonymous FDR Larouchie we site? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #186

Those who latch onto such nonsense and promote it as a truthful quote probably are NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #188

wrong answer, but thanks for playing.. frylock Aug 2012 #203

Manny, like you... Oilwellian Aug 2012 #183

K&R for the (inconvenient) truth (n/t) a2liberal Aug 2012 #189

Willingness to cut SS/Medicare is a DISCREDIT to those Dems closeupready Aug 2012 #194

Here's a good post: ProSense Aug 2012 #195

We need reporters and debate moderators abelenkpe Aug 2012 #196

Thank You, Manny... DURec bvar22 Aug 2012 #200

But, the cuts will be "not as bad" as Romney's. And, will be claimed as a victory. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #205

K&R! The payroll tax holiday is also an attack on SS grahamhgreen Aug 2012 #206

Ah, ProSense Aug 2012 #207

Excellent post and following discussion. plethoro Aug 2012 #211

Do you REALLY believe that the Democratic Party Leadership is going to STEP UP... bvar22 Aug 2012 #250

No, I don't. I didn't think it would be reversed when it plethoro Aug 2012 #256

There's no reason to raise the rates once the... Blanks Aug 2012 #281

I always sucked at blind obedience. The President is nowhere near far enough left for me.... Scuba Aug 2012 #216

Everything everyone said goes double for me! Dustlawyer Aug 2012 #225

why the OP is just like RW gun nuts scheming daemons Aug 2012 #227

+1 AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #229

Amen... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #239

Abso-fucking-lutely... SidDithers Aug 2012 #278

Check out ProSense Aug 2012 #230

Obama under delusion that he could work with honorable republicans, He found out, he could not. CarmanK Aug 2012 #232

Obama would be happy to learn I give him plenty of credit for collaborating with enemies of SS Dragonfli Aug 2012 #233

I think I heard you on one of the talk shows today. Whisp Aug 2012 #234

Sorry, I don't watch Fox like you do, my views are liberal and your shows are simply not on my radar Dragonfli Aug 2012 #235

I don't watch Fox Whisp Aug 2012 #240

So you come to your opinion that cuts to SS etc. are good all on your own? That's special I suppose Dragonfli Aug 2012 #261

one hit wonders. Whisp Aug 2012 #276

This socialist supports your posts Manny - TBF Aug 2012 #236

Totally with you on this. blackspade Aug 2012 #241

Well Said Manny.... K/R! lib2DaBone Aug 2012 #242

Is there a direct quote mzmolly Aug 2012 #246

Did the freepers pay you for this? Progressive dog Aug 2012 #248

No. He wanted to reverse the 2008 election DevonRex Aug 2012 #251

Nothing? Who appointed known anti-Social Security members to the Cat-Food Commission? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #255

You could ProSense Aug 2012 #259

You refer to 3 points and say that "points one and three are utterly bogus." Is this valid? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #262

Nope ProSense Aug 2012 #264

Wrong. If you are arguing that Social Security is tied to the deficit, that is a straw man. That's AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #268

WTH? ProSense Aug 2012 #269

I think that you are misreading what was written about Harkin. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #273

No, I'm not. n/t ProSense Aug 2012 #274

Jury voted 5 to 1 to keep your post. nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #265

Cuts to SS & Medicare... SkyDaddy7 Aug 2012 #263

Ok Manny, now it's my turn to yell at you...you diabolical Drew Richards Aug 2012 #272

Manny - Ed Schultz sets you and Romney straight mzmolly Aug 2012 #275

Manny, Manny, Manny, why are you not truedelphi Aug 2012 #277

Dear Manny ~ If president Obama makes this clear public statement: Zorra Aug 2012 #282

I'd feel a heck of a lot better MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #284

Well, I suppose we'll just have to wait and see what happens during his second term. Zorra Aug 2012 #287

We also need assurances that there will be no chained CPI. woo me with science Aug 2012 #288