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99. After the 2020 primary...and I don't believe Sen. Sanders will run or if he does win.

Mon Oct 22, 2018, 04:48 PM

Oct 2018

This sort of thing will end. Thank God. So so sick of it. I would not vote for Sen. Sanders in a primary...not a Democrat. But I would vote for him in a general. I honestly believe his best chance was 16 and that ship has sailed.

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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) thinks there is reason to doubt the predicted "blue wave" in next month' [View all] brooklynite Oct 2018 OP

Who on the left would benefit from a disappointing year? RandySF Oct 2018 #1

This line would warrant a BAN from this website if Bernie were posting here Eliot Rosewater Oct 2018 #9

Then why don't you tell us? melman Oct 2018 #13

are you being obtuse? WhiteTara Oct 2018 #59

No at all melman Oct 2018 #63

I think the post speaks for itself, and glad it's there. George II Oct 2018 #80

Great melman Oct 2018 #85

No thank you.... George II Oct 2018 #90

What is your concern? Cary Oct 2018 #133

What? melman Oct 2018 #136

But they also expressed a desire to not answer your question Cary Oct 2018 #141

I'm beginning to think there might not really be anything going on melman Oct 2018 #143

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may the force be with us all. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #159

Ha! Cary Oct 2018 #169

Sometimes there's a method. George II Oct 2018 #66

Then, there is the madness! WhiteTara Oct 2018 #67

Indeed. George II Oct 2018 #71

Don't think so zipplewrath Oct 2018 #17

No. look at this line Eliot Rosewater Oct 2018 #19

No zipplewrath Oct 2018 #20

Uh huh... Eliot Rosewater Oct 2018 #23

Either zipplewrath Oct 2018 #26

Try cashing a check with an implied signature. I supported Bernie ... marble falls Oct 2018 #173

Oh for f*cks sake. A check is a legal document. A partial quote of a verbal conversation without... Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #184

"Oh for f*cks sake." Triggered! betsuni Oct 2018 #187

"Oh for Fucks sake"!! Cha Oct 2018 #242

At least it's better than "FFS" or "I lulzed". N/T lapucelle Oct 2018 #247

I think the full quote makes the context clear... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #201

People all throughout the party are saying the same thing. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #203

I have not heard Democrats say this...another reason why I will not support Sen. Sanders in the Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #275

Exactly G_j Oct 2018 #229

Absolutely my understanding as well. pangaia Oct 2018 #262

Or a caution zipplewrath Oct 2018 #193

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Exactly! Where is his dose of reality about his "revolution" and why/how R B Garr Oct 2018 #199

I agree about ..either. pangaia Oct 2018 #261

Yeah, it means if we take the house or the senate we have an entity to stand up to trump. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #31

+1 Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #152

Your Bernie hate is clouding your brain. Ace Rothstein Oct 2018 #73

So true... what is going on here? InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #205

You're wasting your time. theaocp Oct 2018 #27

+1 Evidently that's the case. lagomorph777 Oct 2018 #28

Sad but true... it'a like "Bizarro World." Instead of applauding Bernie for his InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #208

Dems will fight each other on simple things like this or what potty is used. lancelyons Oct 2018 #53

The 8 percenters are mild here! They are completely batshit on twitter m-lekktor Oct 2018 #87

"Bernie haters"? "It's what they do"? Seems a bit of derogatory talk toward DEMOCRATS... George II Oct 2018 #98

so, as a democrat BigGermanGuy Oct 2018 #225

We're talking about comments made today about actions in 2018. 2016 is history. George II Oct 2018 #228

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Maybe you could explain what you like about Bernie going back to Independent. R B Garr Oct 2018 #233

Didn't Bernie go back to Independent? What do you like about that? nt R B Garr Oct 2018 #232

There's no "either" in that sentence. George II Oct 2018 #75

Which is what "implied" means zipplewrath Oct 2018 #76

"We have an entity (congress) to stand up to the president, or we dont" Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #48

Likely they don't have enough "Hate Bernie" stamps to equal a free drink yet. n/t theaocp Oct 2018 #50

"They"? Who are the "they" that you're referring to? George II Oct 2018 #95

Calling posters "Bernie haters" is, once again, de rigueur - and acceptable - on DU. OilemFirchen Oct 2018 #108

+1,000,000 George II Oct 2018 #109

Not always.. Cha Oct 2018 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Oct 2018 #107

Get up on the wrong side of the bed? ehrnst Oct 2018 #238

It's clearly not an attack on Democrats... and we all know it. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #209

Huh? whathehell Oct 2018 #101

Correct. He is using the Michael Moore method. He doesn't want Dems to get complacent. LBM20 Oct 2018 #70

Didn't Moore vote for Nader? John Fante Oct 2018 #103

Yes, here's what he said at a Nader rally at MSG in 2000: George II Oct 2018 #142

Michael Moore lives and votes (and campaigns) in Michigan. Going into Election Day.... George II Oct 2018 #119

The Michael Moore GOTV method?!!! Hortensis Oct 2018 #278

How does insinuating "we're not going to win" get out the vote? Did he SAY "get out and vote"? George II Oct 2018 #72

Well, we don't see the whole interview zipplewrath Oct 2018 #77

"Seems"? This is politics, one doesn't "seem", one SAYS. George II Oct 2018 #78

lol melman Oct 2018 #79

Huh? That's funny? I fail to see the humor. George II Oct 2018 #81

Very melman Oct 2018 #82

Well, to borrow a phrase...."then maybe you can explain what's really going on." George II Oct 2018 #91

Well to borrow another melman Oct 2018 #97

And if I could see the whole interview zipplewrath Oct 2018 #84

I'm just reading the words that are posted, I try not to "presume" anything. If it's.... George II Oct 2018 #94

But there are more words zipplewrath Oct 2018 #104

YES, he has been campaigning TIRELESSLY telling Dems to GET OUT AND VOTE. LBM20 Oct 2018 #123

Lol. Bfd Oct 2018 #135

I hope his tour will stop in Vermont to campaign for the Democratic challenger for governor. lapucelle Oct 2018 #286

Bingo. That's the acid test question. It doesn't get the vote out. It suppresses ... marble falls Oct 2018 #174

I'm with you, Elliot. Sometimes I feel like the Russian troll farm has gotten ... marble falls Oct 2018 #171

No one would be banned for that statement on DU. aikoaiko Oct 2018 #183

I find Sen Sanders word construct to be illuminating grantcart Oct 2018 #218

That's a great analysis. lapucelle Oct 2018 #241

I noticed that subtle change from "millionaires and billionaires" to "billionaires" months ago. George II Oct 2018 #258

All that means is that if the Dems win, congress will be "an entity able to stand up to tblue37 Oct 2018 #271

Bookmarked! Scurrilous Oct 2018 #2

I'm going to start a thread violetpastille Oct 2018 #3

All very good questions! I demand answers! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #7

And the point would be that Sanders is not saying grantcart Oct 2018 #221

Republicans are the enemy. betsuni Oct 2018 #273

it won't hit us in WI jodymarie aimee Oct 2018 #4

I am so darn tired of him right now. redstatebluegirl Oct 2018 #5

You're not alone in those feelings... NurseJackie Oct 2018 #37

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Ah... you noticed that too, eh? NurseJackie Oct 2018 #40

So Tiresome Me. Oct 2018 #8

Seriously? He's fundraising FOR Democratic candidates but KEEPING HALF for himself? NurseJackie Oct 2018 #47

You Gotta Give The Guy Credit Me. Oct 2018 #51

I prefer to donate directly to a candidate, OR then DCCC, or the DNC... NurseJackie Oct 2018 #56

Exactly Me. Oct 2018 #57

Or the State Democratic Party. George II Oct 2018 #121

Excellent advice. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #140

I Quite Agree With You Me. Oct 2018 #213

For the life of me, I don't understand why someone would contribute to a campaign via.... George II Oct 2018 #214

Exactly Me. Oct 2018 #215

That's the way it should be. The option to split your contribution should be just that.... George II Oct 2018 #216

And he's supported for that too. If a Democrat did it they would be villified till they Bfd Oct 2018 #74

Tom Perez just said the exact same thing on cnn Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #93

Yup. Pretty mich any Democrat paying attention since 2015, is aware of it Bfd Oct 2018 #100

Not to me. Not to anyone who's been paying attention. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #106

But you have to dig to find that out... George II Oct 2018 #61

Well, hello there! Howdy-do! Good to see you! NurseJackie Oct 2018 #224

... Me. Oct 2018 #234

Brilliantly Stated, Me.. and Dead On. Cha Oct 2018 #235

Aloha pehea ʻoe Cha Me. Oct 2018 #249

Grand! pehea ʻoe? Cha Oct 2018 #251

maikaʻi loa Me. Oct 2018 #257

Have you been to Hawaii, Me? Cha Oct 2018 #259

No But Want To Me. Oct 2018 #265

It's not "silly" at all. It's awesome! I love different Cha Oct 2018 #267

Content de te revoir ! lapucelle Oct 2018 #240

Merci Bien Me. Oct 2018 #248

Todd Rundgren - Hello It's Me (1972) sheshe2 Oct 2018 #264

... Me. Oct 2018 #266

Why do politicians think they can scare voters into the booth by telling them to standingtall Oct 2018 #10

Because it works Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #52

Everyone who said it might be close was accused of 'concern trolling' melman Oct 2018 #54

And many accusers probably didnt vote Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #60

Democrats won the popular vote in 2016 standingtall Oct 2018 #89

Do you have a source for this data? Which analysts said this? (nt) ehrnst Oct 2018 #177

It's not entirely true that the reason Democrats lost in 2016 was because many Democrats.... George II Oct 2018 #227

And, yet Hillary got 3 million more VOTES than the asshole. Cha Oct 2018 #281

I could happily go for 20 years without hearing about Bernie YessirAtsaFact Oct 2018 #11

If he becomes the nominee Guppy Oct 2018 #12

why would you no longer be a Democrat if Sanders somehow wins the 2020 Democratic nomination? Celerity Oct 2018 #44

Agree! If he were to become the candidate, or run as an independent we will loose Thekaspervote Oct 2018 #102

So does Trump. ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #14

Does anyone really think it will be a blow out? I think it will be close too. Autumn Oct 2018 #15

Various forms of "close" zipplewrath Oct 2018 #34

Whether it's a "blowout" or not.. BS isn't helping. Cha Oct 2018 #116

There are 435 House elections and 33 Senate elections. Some will be blowouts for Democrats.... George II Oct 2018 #117

With gerrymandering, it will be a blowout or we lose...Virginia was won with over 10 points in Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #276

Half of the people reading this theaocp Oct 2018 #16

I'll take option one in that case. comradebillyboy Oct 2018 #21

Winner winner chicken dinner theaocp Oct 2018 #24

Does it matter who they dislike, as long as they vote Democratic? (nt) ehrnst Oct 2018 #217

Thanks Bernie. We know we can always count on you when we need smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #18

Bernie is the greatest! NurseJackie Oct 2018 #49

.......... George II Oct 2018 #239

............. melman Oct 2018 #246

Oh, melman. betsuni Oct 2018 #274

lol betsuni melman Oct 2018 #279

"what we want is for people to blow smoke up our tail-holes Dammit!" JCanete Oct 2018 #284

Doesn't this actually encourage voting? melman Oct 2018 #22

Come on now. There hasn't been one of these since Autumn Oct 2018 #25

Yeah, just because there are so many who don't Cha Oct 2018 #120

You call it a "hate thread". I call it Not liking another thing BS Cha Oct 2018 #118

Oh it's the Eleven Films tweet again melman Oct 2018 #122

Haha.. Deal with it. Cha Oct 2018 #124

This is a great one. I don't know why people would be upset with highlighting: George II Oct 2018 #149

So Brilliant! Mahalo for this Blue Wave Trailer, George! Cha Oct 2018 #150

What's the problem with the Eleven Films tweet? George II Oct 2018 #128

Did someone say there was a problem? melman Oct 2018 #130

Read your message that I responded to. If you didn't have a problem.... George II Oct 2018 #134

Oh, melman. betsuni Oct 2018 #153

Oh betsuni melman Oct 2018 #154

Oh Betsuni! sheshe2 Oct 2018 #256

I just saw that Eleven Films tweet for the first time and LOVE the positive energy! betsuni Oct 2018 #151

YES INDEEDY, betsuni! FIRED UP AND READY TO GO!! Cha Oct 2018 #155

Yes, we can! Thanks, Obama! betsuni Oct 2018 #156

Yeah, THANKS OBAMA! Cha Oct 2018 #157

Thank you for posting this. Feel better that Obama will be fighting for us. betsuni Oct 2018 #158

lol & "We turned Nevada BLUE Twice with President Barack Obama!" Cha Oct 2018 #160

Your second Meme is echoing Bernie's comment. aikoaiko Oct 2018 #189

It's a pictue of a woman riding a blue wave. lapucelle Oct 2018 #245

I was referring to the Blue Tsunami (if we vote) meme that you posted. aikoaiko Oct 2018 #268

BS said he doesn't "believe talk about a blue wave and all that stuff". lapucelle Oct 2018 #272

Both Cha and Bernie are acknowledging the Blue Wave won't happen.... aikoaiko Oct 2018 #282

"I know a lot of people talk about this blue wave and all that stuff, but I don't believe it." lapucelle Oct 2018 #285

No. It encourages dispair, and staying at home because why bother. ehrnst Oct 2018 #175

Correct! That's exactly what it does. Why would anyone do that, say that, post that? Who benefits? NurseJackie Oct 2018 #277

Stop with the logic... you're makin' WAY too much sense!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #210

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Many people agree with you. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #32

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I love you! NurseJackie Oct 2018 #33

Love you back! NastyRiffraff Oct 2018 #39

Why bother posting? theaocp Oct 2018 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author VOX Oct 2018 #55

Why does he insult Dems but want to use the Dem Party as an asset irisblue Oct 2018 #43

He said it was ethically OK for him to join the Democratic party to run for POTUS for $$ and media: ehrnst Oct 2018 #172

I've read those quotes before. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #181

+1 betsuni Oct 2018 #185

The Hill ain't our friend zipplewrath Oct 2018 #36

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Yeah that's a funny thing melman Oct 2018 #45

Thanks for the "haterade" comment, but I think the Hill is universally frowned upon. George II Oct 2018 #105

So why did Bernie agree to interview with them? namahage Oct 2018 #269

Hopefully this will serve to motivate Democrats to get out the vote oberliner Oct 2018 #38

It appears to be his intent zipplewrath Oct 2018 #46

It's almost impressive to me... Docreed2003 Oct 2018 #58

Yes Sir The Polack MSgt Oct 2018 #62

There has been no positive action yet Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #64

I agree with managing expectations completely Docreed2003 Oct 2018 #68

Good thing he's not a football coach dalton99a Oct 2018 #131

For some we're nitpicking, but there really is the belief out there *especially among young people* JHan Oct 2018 #222

I agree completely... Docreed2003 Oct 2018 #223

Claiming there might not be a "blue wave", i.e., Democratic win, discourages some to NOT do somethin George II Oct 2018 #145

I'm the opposite of "impressed" by BS always Cha Oct 2018 #83

Yep. ++ JHan Oct 2018 #110

This was one comment. The guy has been busting his ass holding GOTV rallies. Let's not read too much LBM20 Oct 2018 #126

There were other similar comments, and in some of his speeches he barely mentioned Democrats... George II Oct 2018 #132

If a Democratic leader had said this, they would be called defeatist. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2018 #176

+1000 Docreed2003 Oct 2018 #191

and after the blue wave comes many will give him the majority of the credit. grantcart Oct 2018 #243

Look at me!!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2018 #65

He is using the Michael Moore method. He doesn't want Dems to get complacent. LBM20 Oct 2018 #69

Yeah, I really don't need BS' "intentions" to be Cha Oct 2018 #92

It is important to understand INTENTIONS even if how they do it may not be what we prefer. LBM20 Oct 2018 #125

Nah.. "I don't believe it" Cha Oct 2018 #127

Or he's trying to make the case for "predicting" what voters want better than the Democrats. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2018 #179

Wonder if Topics should get locked zipplewrath Oct 2018 #86

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After the 2020 primary...and I don't believe Sen. Sanders will run or if he does win. Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #99

I would but only if he's the Democratic candidate. But that will never happen. George II Oct 2018 #112

Good Point, George.. Cha Oct 2018 #114

I agree. No one gets the Democratic nomination without the votes of women of color. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2018 #178

That's right.. our most loyal and energetic Cha Oct 2018 #186

I won't vote for him in a primary even if ran as a Democrat in primary...vote for a different Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #198

He won't run. He isn't transparent enough to even get on the ballot in some states now. MrsCoffee Oct 2018 #195

I agree... Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #197

The Opposite of BS.. BREAKING: #BlueWave imminent! Cha Oct 2018 #96

But then what if Dems stay home because they think, "Ah well, gonna win no matter what. No need to LBM20 Oct 2018 #129

#BLUE WAVE.. IT SAYS "WHEN WE VOTE"!!!!!! Cha Oct 2018 #138

"If"? Sounds like you have doubts. aikoaiko Oct 2018 #190

When you thought you were once riding a wave of your own... WeekiWater Oct 2018 #111

Yeah, you just might. Cha Oct 2018 #137

Good point. betsuni Oct 2018 #146

I can't stand Bernie. But will defend him here. GulfCoast66 Oct 2018 #113

No close calls in democrats taking the house, only question is by beachbum bob Oct 2018 #139

My first thought was he's (inadvertently) giving cover to trump & russia; on the other hand, ecstatic Oct 2018 #147

I tend to agree with him because a lot of young Democrats don't vote. Oneironaut Oct 2018 #148

Dems Must Vote-No Excuses!! Irishxs Oct 2018 #161

Don't boo. Vote! aikoaiko Oct 2018 #162

He apparently Jamaal510 Oct 2018 #163

+1 Cha Oct 2018 #170

omg, really?! Absolutely unnecessary and self-serving negative R B Garr Oct 2018 #164

Bernie's repeating J.D. Scholten's message to voters. .99center Oct 2018 #165

What does this mean: "I don't necessarily believe in a blue wave, I believe in earning votes"? betsuni Oct 2018 #166

Scholten's running in a conservative area, against Steve King. .99center Oct 2018 #167

Join the BLUE WAVE! Cha Oct 2018 #168

I supported Bernie up to the convention and I know we're going to have Blue Wave ... marble falls Oct 2018 #180

+100. Dissident politicians require the failure of those they'd replace. Hortensis Oct 2018 #192

"And election wins in 2018 will affect the 2020 census and thus help repair the disastrous ... marble falls Oct 2018 #200

Yes. For sure. Of course this is the real world, Hortensis Oct 2018 #212

Work under the assumption he is correct Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2018 #182

On one hand it can motivate folks to vote. On the proverbial other hand it can depress people. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #188

DSB, this comment was brilliant saidsimplesimon Oct 2018 #226

TY. I'm still bruised from the Bernie wars. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #236

BETTER BELIEVE IT! MrsCoffee Oct 2018 #194

Unrec. MrsCoffee Oct 2018 #196

Is Bernie a Democrat today? Tarc Oct 2018 #204

Ha! NurseJackie Oct 2018 #255

Cheers! Tarc Oct 2018 #263

Nice of you to not post his entire comments, which are about GOTV Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2018 #206

It's clear what Bernie is saying... everybody knows it true. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #211

His GOTV speeches have been intense and G_j Oct 2018 #231

The NYT and the Hill.TV interviews are different. namahage Oct 2018 #270

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Way to go to depress the vote Bernie! Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2018 #219

Many people share your feelings. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #252

Way to piss on the parade, Bern Blue_Tires Oct 2018 #220

It serves no good purpose... NurseJackie Oct 2018 #253

Its more like pissing into the Blue Wave revmclaren Oct 2018 #260

Too Funny Me. Oct 2018 #280

Senator Grouch is at it again lanlady Oct 2018 #237

Ha! NurseJackie Oct 2018 #254

"Entity" sheesh. Even our plainest spoken have no internal digestion organs. gulliver Oct 2018 #244

It is not in the bank quaker bill Oct 2018 #250

Another example of Bernie's political sense. namahage Oct 2018 #283

Well that inspires confidence still_one Feb 2020 #287