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MineralMan

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32. I tend to agree. The percentage of US voters who even
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:21 PM
Aug 2012

know who Ayn Rand is is very small. The same thing applies to mentioning Ryan's fondness for Austrian Economics, which he shares with Ron Paul. Less than 1% of the population even knows what Austrian Economics is, so it does no good to mention it.

Instead, we need, I think, to focus on what the consequences to normal people will be if Romney/Ryan wins. Those things are clear and they hit home for people who actually go out and vote, despite not really knowing much about political theories and the like.

Such esoteric stuff is really interesting to political junkies, but of no interest at all to the vast majority of voters. We need to focus on what actually affects their lives in ways they can understand.

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His position on social issues? atreides1 Aug 2012 #1
Completely disagree. ProSense Aug 2012 #2
Depends upon how Rand is framed.. cyclezealot Aug 2012 #30
About the highlighted quote Springslips Aug 2012 #48
I tend to agree DearAbby Aug 2012 #33
The only attack necessary is the one on his budget plan... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #3
his budget ideas come from his Ayn Rand fanboy status. they're interlinked. n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #6
Totally disagree. Ayn Rand was crucial to his formative years, and now. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #4
Don't think so. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #5
Yeah,who is really waging the war on Christianity??? nanabugg Aug 2012 #41
And yet I voted against the bottom of the ticket last time. Palin swung me away from GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #7
I disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #8
a lot of people don't like anything radical Enrique Aug 2012 #9
Her interview with Mike Wallace is filled with wonders... Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #23
I posted that interview a while back here at DU jsmirman Aug 2012 #28
Well, my republican in-laws were frogmarch Aug 2012 #10
It could impact the Catholic vote Brother Buzz Aug 2012 #11
Most right wingers with whom I talk do not know who Ayn Rand is. I don't think the majority of them Lint Head Aug 2012 #12
That's exactly why it wouldn't work loyalsister Aug 2012 #31
Exposing Ryan/Romney as Randians would be of interest to an educated crowd. reformist2 Aug 2012 #13
Make 'Ayn Rand' a liability in the same way Reagan denigrated 'liberal'. randome Aug 2012 #14
I could not agree more. Marr Aug 2012 #54
+10,000. nt LaydeeBug Aug 2012 #65
Probably right on this Johonny Aug 2012 #15
But we're building a narrative here. sadbear Aug 2012 #16
It's the hypocrisy... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #17
Exactly. On it's own it's not likely to convince anyone. Salviati Aug 2012 #29
I disagree with "people vote the top of the ticket" Not Me Aug 2012 #18
And yet there was Dan Quayle loyalsister Aug 2012 #34
What percentage of voters have read even 5 pages of any of her writing? Quantess Aug 2012 #19
That's why a short 5-6 point ad on her beliefs would be so valuable. nanabugg Aug 2012 #58
"The Ayn Rand attack on Ryan is...a big shrug..." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #20
"Atlas Shrugged" - 25 million copies sold, probably only 2.5 million people actually have read it. reformist2 Aug 2012 #21
I love asking my Fundie Family how they can vote for a cultist (they dont view mormons as xians) NightWatcher Aug 2012 #22
I disagree: Why Religious Leaders Have Condemned The Ryan-Romney Budget SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #24
Even a distant tangential association with Randian philosophy should be utterly toxic aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2012 #25
Disagree. moondust Aug 2012 #26
I think Ryans Ayn Rand adoration fredamae Aug 2012 #27
I tend to agree. The percentage of US voters who even MineralMan Aug 2012 #32
That's why it is important for Dem pundits and the Obama campaign to explain who Rand is and what nanabugg Aug 2012 #42
Waste of time, really. MineralMan Aug 2012 #44
If you keep making Ryan having to defend being an Objectivist it isn't. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #45
I'd say the biggest handicap is that many have no idea who she is RZM Aug 2012 #35
Most people have never heard of Ayn Rand. Redford Aug 2012 #36
Exactly. And even some who read her don't understand her. mvd Aug 2012 #40
Most people don't even know about Ayn Rand. Right now it appears that Ryan has overshadowed AlinPA Aug 2012 #37
Most people had never heard of Bill Ayres a few years ago, either. Marr Aug 2012 #55
The average voter doesn't know Ayn Rand from Rockin' Randall Bake Aug 2012 #38
Anything that keeps them off message is not pointless, although I agree Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #39
Oh, yeah, BTW, nothing in this election is "pointless." Every vote will be important. nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #43
Totally disagree! B Calm Aug 2012 #46
Disagree - it highlights the radical "social engineering" intended by the ticket bhikkhu Aug 2012 #47
Never hurts to paint the opposition as a radical. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #49
Depends on the audience. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #50
I disagree with the conventional wisdom, it does matter this time. He did not just still_one Aug 2012 #51
The general public may not understand intellectual sophistry. . . theinquisitivechad Aug 2012 #52
Palin. Marr Aug 2012 #53
McCain was at the top of the ticket too. Jim__ Aug 2012 #56
I don't think it will have much of an effect on this fall's election, but discussing fishwax Aug 2012 #57
Hmmm. methinks they doth protest too much who think the Rand connection to Ryan nanabugg Aug 2012 #59
"Ayn Rand is the reason I got into public service." Paul Ryan. Blue Idaho Aug 2012 #60
Wow, what a sick fucking quote by Ayn Rand! B Calm Aug 2012 #62
Well, after Rachel and Larry did their show tonight...no longer pointless... nanabugg Aug 2012 #61
If Republicans could somehow turn John Kerry's war record into a negative... CreekDog Aug 2012 #63
Taking the 'head in the sand' approach does not bode well for the ostrich. LaydeeBug Aug 2012 #64
Tar them both as whackjobs ellisonz Aug 2012 #66
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