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Zing Zing Zingbah

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27. Women and minorities will vote for a white guy who has their back.

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 01:38 PM

Oct 2018

Like they have for so many years before. Anyone can be inspirational if they speak about the issues that matter to you. Plus, there are lots of people already motivated just to vote against Trump (lots of women and minorities in this group). We still need to get some of those Trump voters though. We need to give them something that they'll be willing to vote for as opposed to Trump.

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Avenatti- "When you have a white male making the arguments, they carry more weight" [View all] Roland99 Oct 2018 OP

Oh, ok. cwydro Oct 2018 #1

? Yuorik57 Oct 2018 #2

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #126

lol. JHan Oct 2018 #3

Like all bad arguments, there is a grain of truth genxlib Oct 2018 #4

This. Demwolv Oct 2018 #6

Not true. Those assholes do vote for democrats Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #17

I mean... Demwolv Oct 2018 #5

"I don't think a white male energizes the Dems the way he thinks." CrispyQ Oct 2018 #34

Thank you EffieBlack Oct 2018 #72

Specifically, him? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #7

He always irritated me. It was inevitable I'd hate him. Corvo Bianco Oct 2018 #8

I guess it's on us white men to save the day again inwiththenew Oct 2018 #9

I can't even.. JHan Oct 2018 #10

Besides being loud, I fail to see what if anything, he has accomplished. Wintryjade Oct 2018 #49

Isn't it sort-of inevitable that a 'Left Trump' would be a caricature? mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #53

Sickening oberliner Oct 2018 #11

Enjoy the chum. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #14

Interesting--another OP popped up after this one. Kingofalldems Oct 2018 #15

I would imagine there would be several after people see that Time Magazine piece oberliner Oct 2018 #19

Your OP is a duplicate of this one. Kingofalldems Oct 2018 #24

You strike me as someone who's well-mannered, courteous and polite... NurseJackie Oct 2018 #35

I don't know what that means oberliner Oct 2018 #18

I do. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #32

Can you explain? oberliner Oct 2018 #33

Yes I can. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #36

OK - thanks oberliner Oct 2018 #44

In terms he can understand: #Basta demmiblue Oct 2018 #12

I agree. We need a white male to run against Trump Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #13

ZZZ, I agree w/ your remarks. Best candidates will be selected via the upcoming primary ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2018 #16

Seriously? oberliner Oct 2018 #20

Seriously Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #26

If you think that argument will inspire women and minorities, you are sadly mistaken. onenote Oct 2018 #25

Women and minorities will vote for a white guy who has their back. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #27

They certainly will kcr Oct 2018 #40

Running another white male in no way nulllifies his remarks. kcr Oct 2018 #38

It won't stop Trump from being Trump Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #74

How do you figure? kcr Oct 2018 #108

"We need a white male to run against Trump bc that will nullify his racist and sexist argument." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #45

It makes it easier to win Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #75

Except whenever there's a "this time" there's never a "next time." It's always "this time." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #84

Bingo! EffieBlack Oct 2018 #86

Ha, I should have read further in the thread! WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #89

Why? Do you think we're going to put up a candidate who hasn't had the backs of minorities and women onenote Oct 2018 #92

Yes, they do EffieBlack Oct 2018 #102

No, that's not true Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #117

Just this once, let's default to a white guy so we can win. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #73

Yeah, because this time is a bit more dire. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #76

But that's ALWAYS the excuse. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #79

Thank you wryter2000 Oct 2018 #83

Yet it is the way it is always done. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #104

OK, but have we ever had such a terrible president? Do you want to risk him getting re-elected? n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #115

The election was stolen. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #120

+1000! mcar Oct 2018 #88

LOL!! peggysue2 Oct 2018 #94

I am agreeing with you reluctantly. He has a point. It is a very charged atmosphere out smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #91

Lol... and the Twitterverse is responding: demmiblue Oct 2018 #21

Lauren Duca is awesome oberliner Oct 2018 #23

Nah. He's making a mistake with that comment. MineralMan Oct 2018 #22

We already tried running a woman against Trump. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #28

And more people voted for her. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #48

Sure, and she still isn't president because of the rural areas. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #116

The last three white GOP candidates lost to either a black man or a white woman EffieBlack Oct 2018 #124

HRC received at least 3 million more votes and they had to throw everything including the kitchen Wintryjade Oct 2018 #50

Men have lost every presidential election in history EffieBlack Oct 2018 #95

He can forget it now. kcr Oct 2018 #29

Unfortunately, Avenatti is Right dlk Oct 2018 #30

And so women and people of color should just step back and shut up? Caliman73 Oct 2018 #70

Exactly� EffieBlack Oct 2018 #80

Unfortunately it fits in with some of the critique of liberal thought. Caliman73 Oct 2018 #96

Yup EffieBlack Oct 2018 #97

I think Michelle Obama would wipe the floor with tRump's rancid ass Blue Owl Oct 2018 #31

I would love that. tymorial Oct 2018 #131

Sadly he isn't far off jimmimac43 Oct 2018 #37

Sorry, but Avenatti is a sleezeball. Oneironaut Oct 2018 #39

Fully agree. tman Oct 2018 #41

Not a smart thing to say. brush Oct 2018 #42

Congrats on your 20,000th post! oberliner Oct 2018 #52

Love Them or Hate Them, Successful Trial Lawyers Understand Human Behavior dlk Oct 2018 #43

May this be the nail in his 2020 coffin. SaschaHM Oct 2018 #46

He just eliminated himself from 2020 consideration. brush Oct 2018 #54

Anyone who think this man should be a Democratic politician is mistaken. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #47

Racist, sexist pig. nt MadDAsHell Oct 2018 #51

Why is everyone so pissed he said the truth? STOP shooting the messenger. bitterross Oct 2018 #55

Have you ever heard of Barack Obama? oberliner Oct 2018 #56

Why, yes, I have. He's called an anomaly. bitterross Oct 2018 #62

He defeated John McCain and then Mitt Romney (two white males) oberliner Oct 2018 #67

All perfectly valid facts. But they do not change current reality. bitterross Oct 2018 #112

He's only an "anomaly" if you think his victory did not represent progress but was instead just a EffieBlack Oct 2018 #113

Except this particular messenger IS a white male running for President! NeverTrumpDemocrat Oct 2018 #61

So only non-white, females can make that statement? bitterross Oct 2018 #64

No -- white male analysts, pundits, op-ed writers, NeverTrumpDemocrat Oct 2018 #66

I agree with you too. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #118

This definitely crosses a line JonLP24 Oct 2018 #57

Since HE'S a white male running for President, that was a STUPID thing for him to say -- NeverTrumpDemocrat Oct 2018 #58

He is trying to walk it back: demmiblue Oct 2018 #59

Buh bye! mcar Oct 2018 #60

Yup. nt cwydro Oct 2018 #85

wasn't a long ride but it had its moments. grantcart Oct 2018 #87

Trying to make a statement about WM privilege, but fails JCMach1 Oct 2018 #63

His words actually reflect the sexist, racist reality we're living in meow2u3 Oct 2018 #65

So basically, women and people of color, you had your one chance... Caliman73 Oct 2018 #68

And we see pervasiveness of white privilege HopeAgain Oct 2018 #69

Here's the problem with that argument (beside it being stupid) EffieBlack Oct 2018 #71

Correct. Statements like that really force us to ask the questions... Caliman73 Oct 2018 #100

Excellent questions! EffieBlack Oct 2018 #101

Unfortunate. cilla4progress Oct 2018 #77

I always liked Avenatti because he was a thorn in Trump's side. But that statement was dumb. dameatball Oct 2018 #78

He's just a dude. One guy. violetpastille Oct 2018 #81

Okay, ladies wryter2000 Oct 2018 #82

Not really what he is saying JenniferJuniper Oct 2018 #90

So, tell me wryter2000 Oct 2018 #99

Not much longer. We just need to win THIS one, then we'll be allowed to be in the room EffieBlack Oct 2018 #103

It is sickening wryter2000 Oct 2018 #109

Of course, it's ALWAYS "just this one time." Wintryjade Oct 2018 #114

Well, then you must be ok with 4 more years of Trump. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #119

Don't even think of trying that bullshit argument on me. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #121

I'm not embarrassed at all. I'm being realistic about our fellow Americans. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #122

You may not be racist or sexist, but you enable racism and sexism - and your attitude is just as EffieBlack Oct 2018 #123

Whatever, you are being ridiculous. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #132

Hmmm... Catherine Vincent Oct 2018 #93

That simply isn't true in my house. Solly Mack Oct 2018 #98

It may be hard to hear but I think he is right. nt doc03 Oct 2018 #105

It's not hard to hear at all. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #106

A black man and a white woman both got more votes ..,. nini Oct 2018 #111

Saying that is a sure fire trip under the bus Raine Oct 2018 #107

Big surprise nini Oct 2018 #110

Really? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #125

"he hastens to add that he wishes it weren't so" FiveGoodMen Oct 2018 #127

"He wishes it weren't so" but since it is, he'll step up to be the white guy who runs EffieBlack Oct 2018 #129

I see his point, but... Mike Nelson Oct 2018 #128

She also won the popular vote. tymorial Oct 2018 #130