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Reply to NurseJackie (Reply #36)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 02:10 PM

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Avenatti- "When you have a white male making the arguments, they carry more weight" [View all] Roland99 Oct 2018 OP

Oh, ok. cwydro Oct 2018 #1

? Yuorik57 Oct 2018 #2

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #126

lol. JHan Oct 2018 #3

Like all bad arguments, there is a grain of truth genxlib Oct 2018 #4

This. Demwolv Oct 2018 #6

Not true. Those assholes do vote for democrats Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #17

I mean... Demwolv Oct 2018 #5

"I don't think a white male energizes the Dems the way he thinks." CrispyQ Oct 2018 #34

Thank you EffieBlack Oct 2018 #72

Specifically, him? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #7

He always irritated me. It was inevitable I'd hate him. Corvo Bianco Oct 2018 #8

I guess it's on us white men to save the day again inwiththenew Oct 2018 #9

I can't even.. JHan Oct 2018 #10

Besides being loud, I fail to see what if anything, he has accomplished. Wintryjade Oct 2018 #49

Isn't it sort-of inevitable that a 'Left Trump' would be a caricature? mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #53

Sickening oberliner Oct 2018 #11

Enjoy the chum. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #14

Interesting--another OP popped up after this one. Kingofalldems Oct 2018 #15

I would imagine there would be several after people see that Time Magazine piece oberliner Oct 2018 #19

Your OP is a duplicate of this one. Kingofalldems Oct 2018 #24

You strike me as someone who's well-mannered, courteous and polite... NurseJackie Oct 2018 #35

I don't know what that means oberliner Oct 2018 #18

I do. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #32

Can you explain? oberliner Oct 2018 #33

Yes I can. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #36

OK - thanks oberliner Oct 2018 #44

In terms he can understand: #Basta demmiblue Oct 2018 #12

I agree. We need a white male to run against Trump Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #13

ZZZ, I agree w/ your remarks. Best candidates will be selected via the upcoming primary ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2018 #16

Seriously? oberliner Oct 2018 #20

Seriously Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #26

If you think that argument will inspire women and minorities, you are sadly mistaken. onenote Oct 2018 #25

Women and minorities will vote for a white guy who has their back. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #27

They certainly will kcr Oct 2018 #40

Running another white male in no way nulllifies his remarks. kcr Oct 2018 #38

It won't stop Trump from being Trump Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #74

How do you figure? kcr Oct 2018 #108

"We need a white male to run against Trump bc that will nullify his racist and sexist argument." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #45

It makes it easier to win Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #75

Except whenever there's a "this time" there's never a "next time." It's always "this time." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #84

Bingo! EffieBlack Oct 2018 #86

Ha, I should have read further in the thread! WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #89

Why? Do you think we're going to put up a candidate who hasn't had the backs of minorities and women onenote Oct 2018 #92

Yes, they do EffieBlack Oct 2018 #102

No, that's not true Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #117

Just this once, let's default to a white guy so we can win. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #73

Yeah, because this time is a bit more dire. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #76

But that's ALWAYS the excuse. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #79

Thank you wryter2000 Oct 2018 #83

Yet it is the way it is always done. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #104

OK, but have we ever had such a terrible president? Do you want to risk him getting re-elected? n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #115

The election was stolen. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #120

+1000! mcar Oct 2018 #88

LOL!! peggysue2 Oct 2018 #94

I am agreeing with you reluctantly. He has a point. It is a very charged atmosphere out smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #91

Lol... and the Twitterverse is responding: demmiblue Oct 2018 #21

Lauren Duca is awesome oberliner Oct 2018 #23

Nah. He's making a mistake with that comment. MineralMan Oct 2018 #22

We already tried running a woman against Trump. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #28

And more people voted for her. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #48

Sure, and she still isn't president because of the rural areas. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #116

The last three white GOP candidates lost to either a black man or a white woman EffieBlack Oct 2018 #124

HRC received at least 3 million more votes and they had to throw everything including the kitchen Wintryjade Oct 2018 #50

Men have lost every presidential election in history EffieBlack Oct 2018 #95

He can forget it now. kcr Oct 2018 #29

Unfortunately, Avenatti is Right dlk Oct 2018 #30

And so women and people of color should just step back and shut up? Caliman73 Oct 2018 #70

Exactly� EffieBlack Oct 2018 #80

Unfortunately it fits in with some of the critique of liberal thought. Caliman73 Oct 2018 #96

Yup EffieBlack Oct 2018 #97

I think Michelle Obama would wipe the floor with tRump's rancid ass Blue Owl Oct 2018 #31

I would love that. tymorial Oct 2018 #131

Sadly he isn't far off jimmimac43 Oct 2018 #37

Sorry, but Avenatti is a sleezeball. Oneironaut Oct 2018 #39

Fully agree. tman Oct 2018 #41

Not a smart thing to say. brush Oct 2018 #42

Congrats on your 20,000th post! oberliner Oct 2018 #52

Love Them or Hate Them, Successful Trial Lawyers Understand Human Behavior dlk Oct 2018 #43

May this be the nail in his 2020 coffin. SaschaHM Oct 2018 #46

He just eliminated himself from 2020 consideration. brush Oct 2018 #54

Anyone who think this man should be a Democratic politician is mistaken. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #47

Racist, sexist pig. nt MadDAsHell Oct 2018 #51

Why is everyone so pissed he said the truth? STOP shooting the messenger. bitterross Oct 2018 #55

Have you ever heard of Barack Obama? oberliner Oct 2018 #56

Why, yes, I have. He's called an anomaly. bitterross Oct 2018 #62

He defeated John McCain and then Mitt Romney (two white males) oberliner Oct 2018 #67

All perfectly valid facts. But they do not change current reality. bitterross Oct 2018 #112

He's only an "anomaly" if you think his victory did not represent progress but was instead just a EffieBlack Oct 2018 #113

Except this particular messenger IS a white male running for President! NeverTrumpDemocrat Oct 2018 #61

So only non-white, females can make that statement? bitterross Oct 2018 #64

No -- white male analysts, pundits, op-ed writers, NeverTrumpDemocrat Oct 2018 #66

I agree with you too. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #118

This definitely crosses a line JonLP24 Oct 2018 #57

Since HE'S a white male running for President, that was a STUPID thing for him to say -- NeverTrumpDemocrat Oct 2018 #58

He is trying to walk it back: demmiblue Oct 2018 #59

Buh bye! mcar Oct 2018 #60

Yup. nt cwydro Oct 2018 #85

wasn't a long ride but it had its moments. grantcart Oct 2018 #87

Trying to make a statement about WM privilege, but fails JCMach1 Oct 2018 #63

His words actually reflect the sexist, racist reality we're living in meow2u3 Oct 2018 #65

So basically, women and people of color, you had your one chance... Caliman73 Oct 2018 #68

And we see pervasiveness of white privilege HopeAgain Oct 2018 #69

Here's the problem with that argument (beside it being stupid) EffieBlack Oct 2018 #71

Correct. Statements like that really force us to ask the questions... Caliman73 Oct 2018 #100

Excellent questions! EffieBlack Oct 2018 #101

Unfortunate. cilla4progress Oct 2018 #77

I always liked Avenatti because he was a thorn in Trump's side. But that statement was dumb. dameatball Oct 2018 #78

He's just a dude. One guy. violetpastille Oct 2018 #81

Okay, ladies wryter2000 Oct 2018 #82

Not really what he is saying JenniferJuniper Oct 2018 #90

So, tell me wryter2000 Oct 2018 #99

Not much longer. We just need to win THIS one, then we'll be allowed to be in the room EffieBlack Oct 2018 #103

It is sickening wryter2000 Oct 2018 #109

Of course, it's ALWAYS "just this one time." Wintryjade Oct 2018 #114

Well, then you must be ok with 4 more years of Trump. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #119

Don't even think of trying that bullshit argument on me. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #121

I'm not embarrassed at all. I'm being realistic about our fellow Americans. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #122

You may not be racist or sexist, but you enable racism and sexism - and your attitude is just as EffieBlack Oct 2018 #123

Whatever, you are being ridiculous. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #132

Hmmm... Catherine Vincent Oct 2018 #93

That simply isn't true in my house. Solly Mack Oct 2018 #98

It may be hard to hear but I think he is right. nt doc03 Oct 2018 #105

It's not hard to hear at all. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #106

A black man and a white woman both got more votes ..,. nini Oct 2018 #111

Saying that is a sure fire trip under the bus Raine Oct 2018 #107

Big surprise nini Oct 2018 #110

Really? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #125

"he hastens to add that he wishes it weren't so" FiveGoodMen Oct 2018 #127

"He wishes it weren't so" but since it is, he'll step up to be the white guy who runs EffieBlack Oct 2018 #129

I see his point, but... Mike Nelson Oct 2018 #128

She also won the popular vote. tymorial Oct 2018 #130