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B Calm

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46. Totally disagree!

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Tue Aug 14, 2012, 08:48 PM

Aug 2012

We need to attack them to show who they really are! I want to play offense!!

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The Ayn Rand attack on Ryan is pointless [View all] cali Aug 2012 OP

His position on social issues? atreides1 Aug 2012 #1

Completely disagree. ProSense Aug 2012 #2

Depends upon how Rand is framed.. cyclezealot Aug 2012 #30

About the highlighted quote Springslips Aug 2012 #48

I tend to agree DearAbby Aug 2012 #33

The only attack necessary is the one on his budget plan... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #3

his budget ideas come from his Ayn Rand fanboy status. they're interlinked. n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #6

Totally disagree. Ayn Rand was crucial to his formative years, and now. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #4

Don't think so. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #5

Yeah,who is really waging the war on Christianity??? nanabugg Aug 2012 #41

And yet I voted against the bottom of the ticket last time. Palin swung me away from GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #7

I disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #8

a lot of people don't like anything radical Enrique Aug 2012 #9

Her interview with Mike Wallace is filled with wonders... Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #23

I posted that interview a while back here at DU jsmirman Aug 2012 #28

Well, my republican in-laws were frogmarch Aug 2012 #10

It could impact the Catholic vote Brother Buzz Aug 2012 #11

Most right wingers with whom I talk do not know who Ayn Rand is. I don't think the majority of them Lint Head Aug 2012 #12

That's exactly why it wouldn't work loyalsister Aug 2012 #31

Exposing Ryan/Romney as Randians would be of interest to an educated crowd. reformist2 Aug 2012 #13

Make 'Ayn Rand' a liability in the same way Reagan denigrated 'liberal'. randome Aug 2012 #14

I could not agree more. Marr Aug 2012 #54

+10,000. nt LaydeeBug Aug 2012 #65

Probably right on this Johonny Aug 2012 #15

But we're building a narrative here. sadbear Aug 2012 #16

It's the hypocrisy... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #17

Exactly. On it's own it's not likely to convince anyone. Salviati Aug 2012 #29

I disagree with "people vote the top of the ticket" Not Me Aug 2012 #18

And yet there was Dan Quayle loyalsister Aug 2012 #34

What percentage of voters have read even 5 pages of any of her writing? Quantess Aug 2012 #19

That's why a short 5-6 point ad on her beliefs would be so valuable. nanabugg Aug 2012 #58

"The Ayn Rand attack on Ryan is...a big shrug..." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #20

"Atlas Shrugged" - 25 million copies sold, probably only 2.5 million people actually have read it. reformist2 Aug 2012 #21

I love asking my Fundie Family how they can vote for a cultist (they dont view mormons as xians) NightWatcher Aug 2012 #22

I disagree: Why Religious Leaders Have Condemned The Ryan-Romney Budget SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #24

Even a distant tangential association with Randian philosophy should be utterly toxic aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2012 #25

Disagree. moondust Aug 2012 #26

I think Ryans Ayn Rand adoration fredamae Aug 2012 #27

I tend to agree. The percentage of US voters who even MineralMan Aug 2012 #32

That's why it is important for Dem pundits and the Obama campaign to explain who Rand is and what nanabugg Aug 2012 #42

Waste of time, really. MineralMan Aug 2012 #44

If you keep making Ryan having to defend being an Objectivist it isn't. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #45

I'd say the biggest handicap is that many have no idea who she is RZM Aug 2012 #35

Most people have never heard of Ayn Rand. Redford Aug 2012 #36

Exactly. And even some who read her don't understand her. mvd Aug 2012 #40

Most people don't even know about Ayn Rand. Right now it appears that Ryan has overshadowed AlinPA Aug 2012 #37

Most people had never heard of Bill Ayres a few years ago, either. Marr Aug 2012 #55

The average voter doesn't know Ayn Rand from Rockin' Randall Bake Aug 2012 #38

Anything that keeps them off message is not pointless, although I agree Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #39

Oh, yeah, BTW, nothing in this election is "pointless." Every vote will be important. nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #43

Totally disagree! B Calm Aug 2012 #46

Disagree - it highlights the radical "social engineering" intended by the ticket bhikkhu Aug 2012 #47

Never hurts to paint the opposition as a radical. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #49

Depends on the audience. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #50

I disagree with the conventional wisdom, it does matter this time. He did not just still_one Aug 2012 #51

The general public may not understand intellectual sophistry. . . theinquisitivechad Aug 2012 #52

Palin. Marr Aug 2012 #53

McCain was at the top of the ticket too. Jim__ Aug 2012 #56

I don't think it will have much of an effect on this fall's election, but discussing fishwax Aug 2012 #57

Hmmm. methinks they doth protest too much who think the Rand connection to Ryan nanabugg Aug 2012 #59

"Ayn Rand is the reason I got into public service." Paul Ryan. Blue Idaho Aug 2012 #60

Wow, what a sick fucking quote by Ayn Rand! B Calm Aug 2012 #62

Well, after Rachel and Larry did their show tonight...no longer pointless... nanabugg Aug 2012 #61

If Republicans could somehow turn John Kerry's war record into a negative... CreekDog Aug 2012 #63

Taking the 'head in the sand' approach does not bode well for the ostrich. LaydeeBug Aug 2012 #64

Tar them both as whackjobs ellisonz Aug 2012 #66