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In reply to the discussion: Obama: Dems don't get enough credit for willingness to cut Social Security and Medicare [View all]JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)271. The audience is Independent/Centrist voters who want DC to become unbroken.
Not saying it's good, but something like 86% of the electorate already has their mind made up who they're voting for. This is both sides making a jump for the other 14%. Yes, it sucks, but IF Social Security is cut then I will judge accordingly.
As of now we have a President who hasn't cut SS vs. A candidate foaming at the mouth to do just that.
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Obama: Dems don't get enough credit for willingness to cut Social Security and Medicare [View all]
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2012
OP
No crap from me. I am for truth and facts regardless of how inconvenient. Sticking one's
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#22
You can count on me for support, Manny...I'm an old school FDR Dem all the way.
whathehell
Aug 2012
#97
You are so correct. That is why we have to destroy the faux "Conservatives" and drive their allies
Vincardog
Aug 2012
#253
The right thing to do or "good fight" is not always a matter of political party.
L0oniX
Aug 2012
#267
That asshole is not in power, and even Obma reject the bowel simple mind plan. /nt
still_one
Aug 2012
#68
The end is he didn't pursue that further. But entertain this, let's give him the benefit of the
still_one
Aug 2012
#101
The Bowles-Simpson proposal does not reduce average SS benefits. It increases them.
bornskeptic
Aug 2012
#199
To show he was willing to compromise. That isn't going to happen again I believe if Obama wins
still_one
Aug 2012
#104
He is not naive, but I believe he thought he could compromise with them. He didn't factor in that
still_one
Aug 2012
#117
I am stating opinion. You don't like tough!, maybe it is you who are bullshtting people. You don't
still_one
Aug 2012
#158
Raising the Medicare eligibility age to 67 is a cut in wasteful spending?
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2012
#8
Thank you! You're absolutely right... and Romney has been trying to paint the cuts that way too!
progressivebydesign
Aug 2012
#80
I completely understand. But w/ GOP obstruction the way it is political theater is all that remains
JaneyVee
Aug 2012
#171
As a lifelong yellow dawg dem I was SHOCKED to hear Obama "offer" cuts in SS and/or Medicare
whathehell
Aug 2012
#112
He is not the attorney general, secondly how many jobs would all those charges create?
julian09
Aug 2012
#283
Prosense, please keep offering facts no matter what....fudrs hate facts big time no matter what the
uponit7771
Aug 2012
#164
Nothing to do with the quality of what's in ProSense's posts. His post construction is awful nt
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#185
It would be alot better if we could vote for someone commited to not cutting these programs.
limpyhobbler
Aug 2012
#24
That's hard to believe. You can't seem to forget him. He's always on your mind!
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#151
There have been many attempts by the Republican Controlled House to cut these programs
berni_mccoy
Aug 2012
#38
Don't worry-- I've been assured that offer was just another piece of 8-dimensional chess.
Marr
Aug 2012
#43
Lol, you got it down perfectly. I thought it was just me. That story is so outlandish
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#169
Yep. It really seemed to me like that whole year and a half or so of the "debt crisis"
Marr
Aug 2012
#209
"We must do it without putting at risk current retirees, the most vulnerable, or people with..."
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2012
#64
Yeah, but you do understand that he's not the same person as the President, right?
ProSense
Aug 2012
#99
Thank you. Traditional Democrats are the only true Democrats, in my opinion,
whathehell
Aug 2012
#106
So in your opinion, someone standing up for Democratic Principles is 'working for the other side'??
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#89
No spin in stating that protecting SS from Republicans is a Democratic principle.
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#126
So asking that Democrats speak out loudly and CLEARLY, (see all the confusion here over
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#215
If you are not in support of Democrats pushing their Party to stick to Democratic Principles
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#223
He started his push with a generational lead in the Senate and a huge advantage in the House
TheKentuckian
Aug 2012
#210
I'm sorry, I don't understand the point. Are you trying to turn us against the President?
progressivebydesign
Aug 2012
#84
Sirota is that you? Are you writing Mitt Romney's speeches these days? He made false....
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2012
#87
“In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ~George Orwell
DeSwiss
Aug 2012
#96
I still remember Obama's Catfood Commission, and it's sequel (Part II):
blkmusclmachine
Aug 2012
#105
There is no need for lower increases in SS. In fact, the SS fund is large enough that
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#244
I'm not upset with you. I still believe our whole economic system needs to change.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#247
The problem is you do not need to put any of your SS on the table. This is the big lie.
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#249
Sorry, I don't believe we can continue to segment everything into separate compartments.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#258
You're quoting an 2-3 hand interpretation as though it were a direct quote, in an article about
patrice
Aug 2012
#133
the op is reporting quotes from legitimate news sources. take it up with them if you think they're
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#142
It's a quote from the premier news organization in the country, the "paper of record," supposedly
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#154
there are reporting intelligence types in every major news organization, but it's the only news
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#157
then let the president deny it & take a firm public stand about cuts. why doesn't he *do* that?
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#160
hardly. goat-fucking isn't a political action. social security is a very popular program, and the
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#219
THE. MEDIA. Remember? PRIVATE agendas implemented through public resources, e.g. WAR on Iraq. nt
patrice
Aug 2012
#218
Democratic majority = fudr meme, knowing damn well it wasn't a controlling majority after GOP change
uponit7771
Aug 2012
#167
Couldn't he come up with a different term and still assure us that SS would be off limits?
Bonobo
Aug 2012
#156
True that & He's never REALLY had to look for work. Has worked "with" those who have, but ...
patrice
Aug 2012
#217
So as soon as the election is over, Obama kills Social Security. That's your new prediction.
JoePhilly
Aug 2012
#177
You expect the President to deny whatever some FDR LaRouchie accuses him of on an anonymous website
NNN0LHI
Aug 2012
#184
Those who latch onto such nonsense and promote it as a truthful quote probably are
NNN0LHI
Aug 2012
#188
But, the cuts will be "not as bad" as Romney's. And, will be claimed as a victory.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2012
#205
Do you REALLY believe that the Democratic Party Leadership is going to STEP UP...
bvar22
Aug 2012
#250
I always sucked at blind obedience. The President is nowhere near far enough left for me....
Scuba
Aug 2012
#216
Obama under delusion that he could work with honorable republicans, He found out, he could not.
CarmanK
Aug 2012
#232
Obama would be happy to learn I give him plenty of credit for collaborating with enemies of SS
Dragonfli
Aug 2012
#233
Sorry, I don't watch Fox like you do, my views are liberal and your shows are simply not on my radar
Dragonfli
Aug 2012
#235
So you come to your opinion that cuts to SS etc. are good all on your own? That's special I suppose
Dragonfli
Aug 2012
#261
Nothing? Who appointed known anti-Social Security members to the Cat-Food Commission?
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2012
#255
You refer to 3 points and say that "points one and three are utterly bogus." Is this valid?
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2012
#262
Wrong. If you are arguing that Social Security is tied to the deficit, that is a straw man. That's
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2012
#268