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HughBeaumont

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23. Rural life in the late 19th century was just as bad as city life.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:01 AM
Aug 2012

The farmer and his family toiled for 14-16 hours a day to merely sustain themselves on a barren landscape that produced little, if any, results. Most farms were foreclosed thanks to them needing machinery to survive and lacking it due to no money. They had to increase their debts to reduce pressure, and finally, the corporate farmers and railroad monopolies with their exorbitant land rates drove them away for good.

There wasn't really any hygiene or safety to speak of. The expanses of manure and lack of sanitation and proper drainage systems poisoned well water and attracted ticks, flies, mosquitos and worms to add to the misery. Dust storms were not uncommon in the Great Plains; prairie fires and locusts were also problematic. It's no wonder the children, particularly the females, were lured to the city to escape the drudgery and loneliness that often drove people insane. Waiting for them there, however, was everything I described above, and more.

What was galling in this particular exchange is that there's not any speck of a notion of "left version/right version". This isn't any fairy tale, it's all historical fact that anyone with access to books can read about. It's unbelievable to me that anyone not named Getty or Rockefeller would praise such a rotten era for workers (and, then as now, the 99%) as the Gilded Age. The only reason any of the Robber Barons were philanthropists at all was because of legacy and peer pressure, not because they were interested in parting with even one red cent of their wealth. Let's look at good ol' Marshall Field on this:

The Field Museum of Natural History was named after him in 1894 after he gave it an endowment of one million dollars. Field was initially reluctant to do so, reportedly saying "I don't know anything about a museum and I don't care to know anything about a museum. I'm not going to give you a million dollars." However he later relented after railroad supplies magnate Edward E. Ayer, another early benefactor (and later first president) of the museum, convinced Field that his everlasting legacy would be achieved by financing the project.

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They should move to their own little offshore island and live their paradise. Zalatix Aug 2012 #1
Galt's Gulch, with hurricanes Scootaloo Aug 2012 #6
They tried that with their 'Republic of Minerva' in the early 70's, caveat_imperator Aug 2012 #11
Ouch... do you have any info on this? That's damning! LOL Zalatix Aug 2012 #15
Right on . . . HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #22
There's a reason they're called LOLbertarians Sick of the GOP Aug 2012 #40
Haiti awaits mikeytherat Aug 2012 #26
country life was usually better than city life back then indie9197 Aug 2012 #2
Do you have ANY idea how dangerous farming is? Zoeisright Aug 2012 #5
I thought the original post was about the "gilded age" indie9197 Aug 2012 #8
There's a difference between "gardening" and "farming" Scootaloo Aug 2012 #7
Knock the dust off those rose colored glasses, willya? Warpy Aug 2012 #9
OK you can work in the city factories in the late 19th century indie9197 Aug 2012 #16
You'd be crushed by either one Warpy Aug 2012 #17
I don't know where you live but self-sufficiency happened then indie9197 Aug 2012 #21
My grandmother raised her own chickens and grew much of Warpy Aug 2012 #32
Rural life in the late 19th century was just as bad as city life. HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #23
best repy EVER Care Acutely Aug 2012 #3
Stop it, you're wasting your time. You can't argue with faith and that's all they have. white_wolf Aug 2012 #4
you're correct steve2470 Aug 2012 #10
Mike Wallace completely destroyed her. HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #24
The "gunpoint" thing in particular annoys me caraher Aug 2012 #12
That's how you spot a Rand acolyte KatyMan Aug 2012 #34
Every time someone talks about how wonderful the schools used to be, SheilaT Aug 2012 #13
Nice reply SilveryMoon Aug 2012 #14
My guess is he didn't read it. They don't want to hear reasoned arguments. Kablooie Aug 2012 #18
Libertarians think taxation is theft, I think private property is theft Taverner Aug 2012 #19
I admire your ability to be free of material possessions indie9197 Aug 2012 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Aug 2012 #25
Well, there is a difference between personal property and private property Taverner Aug 2012 #35
I've long since.. sendero Aug 2012 #27
Beautiful response... Duchess St.Rollins Aug 2012 #28
Someone once told me that I could never be a CEO because I have a soul. HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #30
The term "libertarian" is what many people hide behind when they don't want to confess that nanabugg Aug 2012 #29
"Libertarians" equal three types of people nowadays. HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #31
I used to classify Libertarians in 3 groups too caraher Aug 2012 #33
Nailed it... SidDithers Aug 2012 #39
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #36
Yes, here on the DU, its all unicorns shitting rainbows. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #37
Essay: "Taxes can never be theft" markpkessinger Aug 2012 #38
So, he supports a means test for Social Security? mzmolly Aug 2012 #41
Not a Romney/Ryan fan by any means. HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #42
I've noted that too. The "fair minded" Libertarians mzmolly Aug 2012 #43
Thanks for posting this in my Triangle Fire post of yesterday. WCGreen Aug 2012 #44
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