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Zalatix

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Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:37 AM

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Horrible - Father killed by off-duty cop who ran over his daughter [View all] reflection Aug 2012 OP

Terrible. lonestarnot Aug 2012 #1

Clearly a case of self-defense ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #2

sad story. no going to judge anyone here. loli phabay Aug 2012 #3

I can understand the father freaking out, drm604 Aug 2012 #4

My judgement would require things I don't now know...like the existing asymmetry of power HereSince1628 Aug 2012 #8

Concur...not enough data ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #18

"...in an effort to avoid them, jumped off his motorcycle." Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #5

i think its just bad writing might be he grounded the bike to try to miss them loli phabay Aug 2012 #7

I think I have a pretty good idea what happened, they are soft softpedalling the cops negligence. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #15

well seeing as he had a broken leg kinda hard to do roadside tests loli phabay Aug 2012 #17

Because an officer discharged his weapon while off duty, in a civilian altercation, resulting Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #19

jjust because he discharged his weapon and there was a fatality doesn't mean an arrest loli phabay Aug 2012 #21

I'm sure it will be found to be 'justified'. We'll see, or rather we will never hear of this again. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #57

Makes sense. The media usually helps cover up wrong doing by the police. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #38

I've ridden longer than I'll admit and that's what it sounds like to me. He took the corner too Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #56

how do you know he was going around a corner? snooper2 Aug 2012 #67

Just the most likely situation to go down. If he wasn't, it was worse as he wasn't even paying Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #81

Very sad gollygee Aug 2012 #6

i thought the child survived. loli phabay Aug 2012 #9

Yes, the child survived. n/t reflection Aug 2012 #10

Oh, whoops gollygee Aug 2012 #11

yeah that would be my first instinct. loli phabay Aug 2012 #12

if it happened that way, it's hard to say it wasn't justified Enrique Aug 2012 #13

If he's still moving and your daughter is unconscious--you attack. vaberella Aug 2012 #51

My first instinct would be to take care of my child. Marrah_G Aug 2012 #59

I would have gone straight to my kid gollygee Aug 2012 #74

If your daughter is severely hurt your are going to attack? NCTraveler Aug 2012 #88

Ah...so your daughter's lying on the pavement and your first impulse inner lite Aug 2012 #97

Don't cops carry tasers? Bandit Aug 2012 #14

not all cops do and none if they are off duty loli phabay Aug 2012 #16

maybe for the accident but not if two guys started beating him. loli phabay Aug 2012 #22

I'd call him the worst cop ever... derby378 Aug 2012 #20

Another bad apple, I guess. Bake Aug 2012 #65

I am leaning towards the cop's side on this one. Marinedem Aug 2012 #23

Cousin was 18 yrs old according to story sammytko Aug 2012 #24

Well that is even worse, then. inner lite Aug 2012 #96

what Marinedem said. I agree. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author BOG PERSON Aug 2012 #91

So uhm ...the cop was in fear for his life? Did the father have a gun or knife? L0oniX Aug 2012 #25

Just pointing this out: Marinedem Aug 2012 #30

Stop ...I'm a police officer! ...I guess that didn't work. L0oniX Aug 2012 #31

I guess not. Marinedem Aug 2012 #32

Too stupid? What compassion. Union Scribe Aug 2012 #36

He assaulted someone. Stupid. Marinedem Aug 2012 #39

As you said to me, no discussion with you would be meaningful. Zalatix Aug 2012 #42

You are just guessing... Mike_Valentine Aug 2012 #44

True, who would ever wonder why a cop would hit a kid. Zalatix Aug 2012 #83

Feel free to wonder to your heart's delight Ben_Caxton Aug 2012 #86

It's concerning to you, perhaps. Zalatix Aug 2012 #90

As a rational person... Ben_Caxton Aug 2012 #93

It was a motorcycle sammytko Aug 2012 #47

He was on a motorcycle,and we don't know gollygee Aug 2012 #72

when they dart out into the street at night? datasuspect Aug 2012 #80

He didn't witness anything, he heard a commotion and ran outside.. snooper2 Aug 2012 #69

Compassion is going to your injured child's side NickB79 Aug 2012 #95

And the police officer couldn't fight back? Zalatix Aug 2012 #35

Reading is fundamental. Marinedem Aug 2012 #37

If reading is fundamental then bullshit checking must be sacred. Zalatix Aug 2012 #40

This may be hard to follow, but please try. Marinedem Aug 2012 #43

LOL. I know, right? Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #64

His leg was broken in the accident.......... Marrah_G Aug 2012 #61

And you posted "if reading is fundamental" ROFL snooper2 Aug 2012 #70

If Reading is Fundamental... NCTraveler Aug 2012 #89

31,224 deaths involving guns in 2000 Confusious Aug 2012 #55

I don't see how this is at all like Zimmerman gollygee Aug 2012 #58

You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist in the US. morningfog Aug 2012 #26

Ouch. Facts are biased against cops. Zalatix Aug 2012 #41

That's not very high, given that cops outnumber terrorists in the US by a huge margin RZM Aug 2012 #66

Not according to Fox. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #99

You attack an armed officer, you get shot. Period. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #27

No winners anywhere in this terrible story... i am going to agree with others seabeyond Aug 2012 #29

No winners BUT the off duty cop was negligent as a motorcylist PufPuf23 Aug 2012 #33

No one who has had a motor vehicle accident should be allowed to be a cop, ride a bike or own a gun? Marrah_G Aug 2012 #62

How do you know he was negligent? dmallind Aug 2012 #77

Yay, Cops! Iggo Aug 2012 #34

I see the authoritarians are out in force making excuses for the cop. redgreenandblue Aug 2012 #45

Much better... Ben_Caxton Aug 2012 #46

If you run over a child then yes, you should take an ass kicking rather than shoot the father. redgreenandblue Aug 2012 #48

Got it... Ben_Caxton Aug 2012 #49

Any decent human being would not fire a gun under such circumstances. redgreenandblue Aug 2012 #50

I know many... Ben_Caxton Aug 2012 #53

+10,000 Zalatix Aug 2012 #63

Does that apply to any traffic fatalities? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #68

If I ever came into such a situation, the thing I wouldn't do is draw a gun. redgreenandblue Aug 2012 #84

Bull. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #73

He only kicked the ass of the little girl right? RegieRocker Aug 2012 #76

Did you actually read the article? Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #78

Jumping off the motorcycle and abandoning it to RegieRocker Aug 2012 #79

Yep, I read. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #82

A decent person would not fight back in such a situation and certainly not draw a gun. redgreenandblue Aug 2012 #85

Absurd. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #87

That's what I'm seeing as well. n/t vaberella Aug 2012 #52

Yep. People don't even get how well trained they've been Union Scribe Aug 2012 #92

I have never ridden a motorcycle exboyfil Aug 2012 #54

Like you, I don't ride reflection Aug 2012 #60

You have to take every situation on a case by case basis period.. snooper2 Aug 2012 #71

You know, I actually knew a (former) trucker reflection Aug 2012 #75

I'm a long time rider, over forty years.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #94

Should not have attacked the cop. Rex Aug 2012 #98