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honest.abe

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45. My argument is that we have to impeach.

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:49 PM

Nov 2018

Gather some evidence then impeach.

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Until we have 67 Senators who will vote to impeach DT, attempts do so are futile. [View all] ehrnst Nov 2018 OP

We hold lots of investigations DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #1

Yes. Demanding impeachment hearings in January will be counterproductive. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2018 #3

agreed that this is the way to go NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #23

The majority of Republican Senators will be up for reelection in 2020 htuttle Nov 2018 #2

:) Apparently so! The nation's taken a shift to the left. Hortensis Nov 2018 #69

Why malaise Nov 2018 #4

He knew that there were Republicans that would vote him out. It was another era, another GOP. ehrnst Nov 2018 #5

And a spineless, complict Republican party desperately holding onto power by catbyte Nov 2018 #52

Yep. W_HAMILTON Nov 2018 #6

In what way are "we refusing to punish Republicans?" ehrnst Nov 2018 #8

By not impeaching if Trump is found to have committed impeachable crimes. W_HAMILTON Nov 2018 #20

That's what investigations are for... ehrnst Nov 2018 #29

Senators dont vote to impeach thatz s the house Fullduplexxx Nov 2018 #7

Actually yes, they do. The House votes and makes the case to the Senate, then the Senate votes. ehrnst Nov 2018 #11

The house votes to impeach the senate votes to remove Fullduplexxx Nov 2018 #13

Correct malaise Nov 2018 #16

Yes the house votes, but the Senate has to remove. We don't have the votes in the Senate. ehrnst Nov 2018 #22

I fully understand the process im not the one who said that we need 67 senators to impeach Fullduplexxx Nov 2018 #42

Clinton JennyMominFL Nov 2018 #14

Yes, without the 67 votes in the Senate, impeachment is futile. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2018 #24

If we have the votes we should go ahead with impeaching him regardless of the Senate. honest.abe Nov 2018 #9

It would be a waste of resources and time. ehrnst Nov 2018 #17

If we dont, then the assumption is he doesnt deserve to be impeached. honest.abe Nov 2018 #19

Not impeaching when it's futile doesn't mean "everything's GREAT!" ehrnst Nov 2018 #35

Trump is our version of Mussolini/Hitler. honest.abe Nov 2018 #37

If law enforcement is doing the exposing, the GOP can't say it's a witch hunt ehrnst Nov 2018 #38

I didnt say right out of the gate. honest.abe Nov 2018 #41

So why are you arguing with me? That's my whole point. ehrnst Nov 2018 #43

My argument is that we have to impeach. honest.abe Nov 2018 #45

No it is not. A show trial is the last thing we need at this juncture. Independents absolutely.... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2018 #44

God, how strong a case do you need??? honest.abe Nov 2018 #47

I'm sorry, but rightwingers were making a similar case for removing Obama. You can't just... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2018 #49

OMG, I cant believe you are comparing Obama to Trump. honest.abe Nov 2018 #51

I was making no comparison between the two. I merely stated that the same arguments you.... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2018 #56

Futile gestures cause people to lose faith brer cat Nov 2018 #68

When Democrats started the impeachment of Richard Nixon they didn't have the votes... PoliticAverse Nov 2018 #10

Nixon knew there would be Republicans who would vote to impeach. And we know our Senate GOP ehrnst Nov 2018 #12

You shame them into voting for impeachment Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #15

You don't start out with impeachment because the GOP has no shame. ehrnst Nov 2018 #18

There's just ONE shot at impeachment NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #75

Shame? You think today's GOP has the capability of shame? They defended and confirmed Kavanaugh. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2018 #59

Agree 100%. BUT unprincipled self interest Hortensis Nov 2018 #70

There's an argument to be made for impeaching him anyway. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #21

They defended Kavanaugh. That's the precedent they sent. And now there are more of them.(nt) ehrnst Nov 2018 #25

We were still right in trying to block Kavanaugh even though we were going to lose. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #28

Of course we were. There wasn't any other option, and we had the possibilty of moving a few votes. ehrnst Nov 2018 #30

It takes 67 votes to convict and remove in the Senate Gothmog Nov 2018 #46

Clinton lied about having an affair. Trump is the most criminal president in history. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #48

I want to see what Mueller has to say Gothmog Nov 2018 #61

I know we wouldn't get conviction, but sometimes you just have to do what's right. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #63

Sometimes you have to do what's right Poiuyt Nov 2018 #71

Yes, republican Senators defended Kavanaugh and they gained seats on Tuesday.... George II Nov 2018 #65

I don't think we lost seats because of Kavanaugh. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #67

Exactly honest.abe Nov 2018 #26

Impeachment without a possibility of getting a conviction would make the Democrats look... George II Nov 2018 #64

We don't know that for sure. There's no precedent for a president *this* criminal. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #66

While it seems incontrovertible that the GOP would not vote to impeach and remove Mr. Ected Nov 2018 #27

I think that's what investigations are for. Not impeachment procedings. ehrnst Nov 2018 #32

While the statement in the OP is true, it is also true that until Mueller's report is released, plus still_one Nov 2018 #31

Impeachement would put the facts in front of the people Tribalceltic Nov 2018 #33

+1 honest.abe Nov 2018 #34

Actually, testimony puts the facts in front of the people. ehrnst Nov 2018 #36

I agree. elfin Nov 2018 #39

I think that demanding impeachment as soon as January is not only stupid ehrnst Nov 2018 #40

House impeaches. Senate convicts. haele Nov 2018 #50

However, Congress could refer Trump Jr and Eric Prince and Kushner.... dawg day Nov 2018 #53

That was the case with President Clinton Catherine Vincent Nov 2018 #54

The GOP lost seats in 1998 when they pulled this stunt Gothmog Nov 2018 #55

Good grief. There is no comparison. honest.abe Nov 2018 #62

So , Dems shouldnt propose any legislation the next 2 years either? Fiendish Thingy Nov 2018 #57

If the evidence is there maxrandb Nov 2018 #58

But it's important to let Trump know that option is always on the table Blue_Tires Nov 2018 #60

If the Mueller report shows that impeachment is warranted, then the House should proceed Poiuyt Nov 2018 #72

I wonder if repugs were waiting to see what happened at mid terms Buckeyeblue Nov 2018 #73

It raises awareness and also makes him do less harm n/t Odoreida Nov 2018 #74

Go after him legally. Taxes/business. AG. Mueller. Kavanaugh placement. All legally. Four prong. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #76

True, but... davekriss Nov 2018 #77

Impeach him and then let some of those vulnerable GOP Senators vote to aquit book_worm Nov 2018 #78

I'm sure the dems are waiting for the Mueller report. vsrazdem Nov 2018 #79