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127. Here is what Michael Moore predicted in 2016: Trump wins.

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:43 PM

Nov 2018

Here is what I thought. Please be welcome to disagree and I am open for an commentary. Essentially, that Sanders and Trump were on the same page regarding the trade agreements that were both in effect and proposed. Clinton had been in favor of the Transpacific agreement until it became unpopular. (I supported it only if changes to protection of our rights and full transparency were added. The same with the NAFTA.) Sanders has been a advocate for stiff tariffs just as was Trump. With our leaving the table this has left China totally in control and they are rapidly increasing their influence throughout not only Asia but South America as well. In regard to tariffs, the Transpacific agreement would have eliminated 18000 tariffs.

In effect this left Clinton being opposed on two important issues by her opponents, one internal and on external. I see very little basic difference between what Trump has done in regard to trade than what Sanders proposed. Every economists that I read said that reckless use of tariffs would result in damaging trade wars. Well, this has become a reality. In addition to being ineffective at best it disregards the plain fact the biggest treat to good paying jobs that didn't require even a high school education as being replaced by automation. It is not outsourcing.

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Bernie Sanders needs to sail off into the sunset [View all] scheming daemons Nov 2018 OP

Or, dare I say Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2018 #1

Down south, the old time saying was "Tend to your knitting" YessirAtsaFact Nov 2018 #126

Bernie, like other progressives, is fallible but searching for solutions. DemocracyMouse Nov 2018 #140

Thank you peace frog Nov 2018 #214

And I thank you as well. Paka Nov 2018 #220

I also thank you and agree. blueinredohio Nov 2018 #227

Damn straight. warmfeet Nov 2018 #228

Absolutely! Paka Nov 2018 #232

Wholeheartedly Agree (except the "funny" part) Martin Eden Nov 2018 #296

correct The Wizard Nov 2018 #304

I'm tired of Sanders butting in .... he is not even a Democrat. Butt out Bernie. trueblue2007 Nov 2018 #181

Are you interested in just having a club? DemocracyMouse Nov 2018 #217

a CLUB ????????? what in the world are you talking about? I didn't say anything about a club. trueblue2007 Nov 2018 #219

We have a party not a club and Sen. Sanders could join...but chooses not to. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #316

Right! True Blue American Nov 2018 #346

Anyone who chooses can join. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #378

Here is what Michael Moore predicted in 2016: Trump wins. olegramps Nov 2018 #127

+1. Anti-Democratic leftists hide their animosity Hortensis Nov 2018 #173

That post True Blue American Nov 2018 #288

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+1 betsuni Nov 2018 #301

You can very easily True Blue American Nov 2018 #308

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"half the party" "so you centrists can lose another election in peace." betsuni Nov 2018 #350

Where do you get this percentage? Gothmog Nov 2018 #357

Half? NurseJackie Nov 2018 #375

"Those who define their righteous superiority by their dissension from the mainstream..." YES! WOW! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #374

+1 betsuni Nov 2018 #241

He won't release his tax returns, so he won't run. boston bean Nov 2018 #2

+1 dalton99a Nov 2018 #24

Or he could join trump is suing to invalidate these ballot access laws Gothmog Nov 2018 #175

Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #3

For what? He isnt a Democrat. scheming daemons Nov 2018 #5

Admins say he is. Take it up with them... Dennis Donovan Nov 2018 #20

He is objectively not a Democrat scheming daemons Nov 2018 #22

Thanks for the post, daemons SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #46

Email Skinner and EarlG then... Dennis Donovan Nov 2018 #50

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That is a rather excellent point you make. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #373

LOL... c'mon dude.... NT Adrahil Nov 2018 #64

No You DownriverDem Nov 2018 #73

Sanders and the letter after his name says he is not democrat. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #154

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"but I think that Sanders spends too much time focusing on those critiques." LiberalLovinLug Nov 2018 #205

Different perspectives. Caliman73 Nov 2018 #213

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Emotions can get in the way. Caliman73 Nov 2018 #267

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Bernie needs to sail off into the White House. Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #230

Agreed! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #260

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I agree srobertss Nov 2018 #236

Most of what he laid claim to was already in the Dem agenda. Ninsianna Nov 2018 #249

Love Love LOVE this!! Jack Bone Nov 2018 #283

Most all were already Dem agenda. Geez, I love the rewriting of history. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #320

Why? Cha Nov 2018 #6

Because in the tos there is a special cant bash bernie rule even though he's not a dem Fullduplexxx Nov 2018 #9

Everything in the OP is Cha Nov 2018 #12

I agree but That wont stop some from alerting Fullduplexxx Nov 2018 #19

Yes. Thank you! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #256

Heya, Jackie! Cha Nov 2018 #258

I almost got banned lillypaddle Nov 2018 #54

There is also another rule sarah FAILIN Nov 2018 #69

Ok more be careful about what you say rules... gtk thanks Fullduplexxx Nov 2018 #87

Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #94

Not from me!;( True Blue American Nov 2018 #289

Do you think that changes if Dems don't let Sanders run Dem, or he just chooses a 3rd party run? Wintryjade Nov 2018 #321

as a Vermonter handmade34 Nov 2018 #8

I have to ask True Blue American Nov 2018 #291

He renamed a couple of post offices. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #338

I guess you could True Blue American Nov 2018 #342

Yes, this is the true story. His primary focus should have been R B Garr Nov 2018 #360

You mean Bernie True Blue American Nov 2018 #362

Yes, he said he wouldn't endorse her, as if a woman who R B Garr Nov 2018 #364

Well, Bernie True Blue American Nov 2018 #370

... LexVegas Nov 2018 #16

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Bernie... handmade34 Nov 2018 #4

Too bad we cant have an open and honest discussion about this Fullduplexxx Nov 2018 #7

BS is the one who keeps Cha Nov 2018 #15

Im in agreement with .********* CENSORED ************ Fullduplexxx Nov 2018 #21

Off topic, I know; but regarding race: why is Barack Obama black; maddiemom Nov 2018 #195

she is black also. if she was to run for public office it would be clear she is black JI7 Nov 2018 #336

I agree that his comment about some whites being uncomfortable voting for a black person... brush Nov 2018 #10

Huh? Did he say it wasn't about racism? KPN Nov 2018 #67

I think you better go back and read his comment. brush Nov 2018 #79

Already did (actually right after I posted). ... and edited my post. KPN Nov 2018 #83

Agreed. Demwolv Nov 2018 #11

Well said EffieBlack Nov 2018 #31

"A push further away from the center can leave your party unrecognizable..." Bfd Nov 2018 #34

Loosely claim the Dem label? recentevents Nov 2018 #302

Some refuse to call themselves a Democrat. Bfd Nov 2018 #315

I've pointed out a number of times that of 100% of Americans, maybe 15-20% are far right.... George II Nov 2018 #124

Nah. Bernie and his involvement is necessary. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #13

So you are ok with the subtle French kiss to racists? Blue_true Nov 2018 #25

Yes, they are ok with it. nt LexVegas Nov 2018 #27

This is what he said. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #88

So degrees of racism? MrGrieves Nov 2018 #149

I realize you're being sarcastic, but it not unreasonable to think in terms of degrees of racism. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #178

I think he was walking on eggshells... TeeYiYi Nov 2018 #211

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This black person appreciates your honesty EffieBlack Nov 2018 #32

Counterpoint: No, they aren't Maven Nov 2018 #183

Affirmation: You're correct. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #259

K and r. Tipperary Nov 2018 #14

People need to stop thinking in a 2016 mindset. OnDoutside Nov 2018 #17

Well said wryter2000 Nov 2018 #48

Thanks for the Cha Nov 2018 #57

As a 2016 Bernie supporter, LakeArenal Nov 2018 #118

Well, OnDoutside Nov 2018 #165

Re: LakeArenal Nov 2018 #179

Re OnDoutside Nov 2018 #202

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I like Joe very much True Blue American Nov 2018 #343

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FFS Bernie, "poor people are not worried about Trump investigations??" Bfd Nov 2018 #26

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I have my guesses.. Cha Nov 2018 #66

Who does he consider his base with statements like these recent ones? Bfd Nov 2018 #74

I think we know Cha Nov 2018 #81

WTF? Without "investigations" or "subpoenas" there is NO oversight, and without oversight.... George II Nov 2018 #128

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What the hell is wrong with him?! The Independent from Vermont ... Hekate Nov 2018 #137

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Bernie, Bernie True Blue American Nov 2018 #292

You're correct. It is... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #306

His latest round of tone deaf comments were deeply offensive ecstatic Nov 2018 #28

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+10,000,000 EffieBlack Nov 2018 #29

Bernie Should Stop Telling The Truth PaulX2 Nov 2018 #30

You think saying that being uncomfortable voting for a black person isn't racism is "truth"? EffieBlack Nov 2018 #33

This. nt. Amimnoch Nov 2018 #95

+1. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #209

Wow obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #38

But it's not true. Cha Nov 2018 #60

What is that saying about if it walks like a duck. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #143

Joe Biden, by credible polls unlike the one that you reference which had serious errors, Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #62

So in you opinion he is correct? GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #123

That rationale has trumpian notes BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #163

What is it he said that is "the truth"? dawg day Nov 2018 #330

I concur njhoneybadger Nov 2018 #35

Cosign! obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #36

I almost forgot... chwaliszewski Nov 2018 #37

As in vogue as Democrat Pelosi bashing. Bfd Nov 2018 #43

It Wouldn't Be If He'd Stop Pontificating Me. Nov 2018 #59

And I see reflexive, irrational defense of everything he says is still in vogue among his followers. BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #170

Bernie needs to hand the progressive baton off to Beto aeromanKC Nov 2018 #39

Or to Stacey or Andrew or Sharice or Alexandria or ... EffieBlack Nov 2018 #44

This! mcar Nov 2018 #156

I was wondering why StuckInTexas Nov 2018 #192

What in the hell are you talking about? EffieBlack Nov 2018 #208

Stacy's battle for our right to vote and the actual work delisen Nov 2018 #310

That's Democrat BETO. Someone who proudly claims his Party name. Bfd Nov 2018 #47

We have not seen the last of Beto! True Blue American Nov 2018 #347

Agree 100% True Blue American Nov 2018 #345

I think this may be my second "Bernie" post, as I generally stay out of them. dameatball Nov 2018 #41

Thank You Bfd Nov 2018 #52

Yes indeed. calimary Nov 2018 #167

Well said! comradebillyboy Nov 2018 #91

JFC. Give it up already. mac56 Nov 2018 #45

That should be "whip it." And if you can be wrong about that... nt fleabiscuit Nov 2018 #290

Go bernie...that is go home!! Thekaspervote Nov 2018 #49

The sooner the better. He is now up to his old tricks beastie boy Nov 2018 #51

I like Bernie, but he needs to be a Democrat all the time, not just election time. louis c Nov 2018 #53

I'll loan him a horse. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #55

Bernie May Mean Well, or Not, However, His Constant Critiques of Democrats Help No One dlk Nov 2018 #58

There you go. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #109

All that aside I generally do like his stances on most issues and had he actually joined the party cstanleytech Nov 2018 #65

another circular firing squad elmac Nov 2018 #68

Be a Democrat all the time, not just election time louis c Nov 2018 #172

Bernie is the reason we are where we are today notinkansas Nov 2018 #275

Agreed! He would need a sound apology tour and full R B Garr Nov 2018 #71

every time I see a thread on DU attacking fellow progressives elmac Nov 2018 #72

This site is DU - Democratic Underground... not PU - Progressive Underground scheming daemons Nov 2018 #103

oooooooh mmmmmmy elmac Nov 2018 #160

so your saying that Democrats are not progressives? elmac Nov 2018 #161

Some progressives are Democrats..... but some "progressives" are disrupters. scheming daemons Nov 2018 #168

Extremely astute; your clarity is a bit nebulous, but your empirical pronouncements cover that up. Magoo48 Nov 2018 #191

You do know that russia helped sanders a great deal Gothmog Nov 2018 #363

He needs to do his job agingdem Nov 2018 #75

but there is a silver lining elmac Nov 2018 #76

That cuts both ways BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #164

K & R SunSeeker Nov 2018 #77

I think this is my first-ever post in a Bernie thread. Croney Nov 2018 #78

But many defenders are certainly giving it a good try... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #114

He's not the only one BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #80

I lulz'd KG Nov 2018 #82

Manchin instead? hell674 Nov 2018 #84

Show me where Manchin said something like Bernie did about voting and racism? BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #169

Manchin hell674 Nov 2018 #223

Republicans love people like you because you help them win. nt mr_liberal Nov 2018 #239

WhataboutManchin is the new WhataboutHillary betsuni Nov 2018 #242

not my point hell674 Nov 2018 #248

Manchin doesn't call the Democratic Party a failure consisting of establishment elites betsuni Nov 2018 #250

Manchin doesn't say much to piss off NRA, anti-choice, or insurance corporations. hell674 Nov 2018 #254

What Third Way nonsense? betsuni Nov 2018 #261

Health care and the Third Way hell674 Nov 2018 #263

I guess Third Way means politics. betsuni Nov 2018 #270

Possibly hell674 Nov 2018 #273

BS was missing in action in his home state Vermont during the general election. lapucelle Nov 2018 #356

Wow.. so there's another repub Gov in Vermont Cha Nov 2018 #366

Governor Scott recently contracted to send VT's incaracerated to a for-profit prison in Mississippi. lapucelle Nov 2018 #368

Most developed nations achieve universal health coverage with hybrid/multi-payer systems ehrnst Nov 2018 #376

sorry but no hell674 Nov 2018 #247

So no examples where he said something as goofy about race like Bernie did? BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #279

Stop the trashing Kosey Nov 2018 #86

The OP doesn't blame Republican voters for electing Republicans. Mariana Nov 2018 #102

He may not have started the attack on Franken, namahage Nov 2018 #108

I love this post so much. It's honest and heartfelt... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #90

It's not only not flattering to those who agree with him, but it's on the edge of being insulting... George II Nov 2018 #98

Excellent point. Very insulting and risks alienating NurseJackie Nov 2018 #105

Bernie speaks like many Dems should Iowa420 Nov 2018 #92

Bernie on Trump: Trump's not really a racist or sexist emulatorloo Nov 2018 #93

The problem isn't the message, it's the package it comes in BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #158

Join and stir. Enjoy your stay. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #207

Which "Dems" don't? George II Nov 2018 #313

Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #96

He makes excuses for racists..... and he attacks Democrats...and he is NOT a Democrat scheming daemons Nov 2018 #106

True. Thank you. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #367

ok Kurt V. Nov 2018 #97

Here is another link to the graphic BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #134

thnx. i don't know how to do that yet Kurt V. Nov 2018 #146

I found another source for the graphic that had an image extension on the end (.jpg or .gif or .png) BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #153

And there it is... as expected disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #99

But he needs the vote he ain't gonna get. Amimnoch Nov 2018 #101

What vote he ain't gonna get???? disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #112

Totally agree with this. nt. Amimnoch Nov 2018 #100

He is a sitting senator who got nearly 70% of the vote in his state on Tuesday - so VT did not ask karynnj Nov 2018 #104

It's time for a lot of the Old Hoss' to pass the torch Tarc Nov 2018 #107

Agreed. Magoo48 Nov 2018 #198

Agree, 100%. True Blue American Nov 2018 #297

Whoever wins the Democratic presidential primary... RobertDevereaux Nov 2018 #110

He did get Progressive people to run so he does have value lunatica Nov 2018 #111

I'll say about him what many here say about Pelosi: ehrnst Nov 2018 #113

Goose, gander... and all that! :-D NurseJackie Nov 2018 #116

Bye Bernie. Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #117

Oh shit...be careful there...That 'segment" here will run you a rash of shit for that that simple Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #119

More young, progressive candidates zentrum Nov 2018 #120

More democrats won period. Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #271

Oh, you must mean zentrum Nov 2018 #325

Those isses have always been democratic issues. Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #332

Thank you True Blue American Nov 2018 #371

This cannot be repeated enough. betsuni Nov 2018 #372

Independent dogandturtlemom Nov 2018 #121

+1 Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #125

No he's not. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #131

Then who is?? Iowa420 Nov 2018 #199

The people, voters. betsuni Nov 2018 #235

Let's start with the entire Democratic Party, from the top (Tom Perez) to local members... George II Nov 2018 #312

+1 Go Vols Nov 2018 #212

I disagree. Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #268

Bernie is not as much as a problem Tribalceltic Nov 2018 #122

Amen to that. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #133

Indeed. calimary Nov 2018 #171

He needs to go away Botany Nov 2018 #129

At this point I tend to agree SHRED Nov 2018 #130

That makes us Both... LovingA2andMI Nov 2018 #136

He lost me when... SHRED Nov 2018 #139

Amen. Disappear, Bernie. (nt) Paladin Nov 2018 #132

+ 1 iluvtennis Nov 2018 #135

Agreed. sagesnow Nov 2018 #138

You are entitled to your opinion Sherman A1 Nov 2018 #141

Bernie Kosey Nov 2018 #144

Is that why he is trying to appeal to racists? Are they left of center? LexVegas Nov 2018 #147

So, what.... The democratic party has no use for Bernie? Bullshit. Chakaconcarne Nov 2018 #148

... LexVegas Nov 2018 #150

Yup... disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #177

Bernie represents me and stands up for my family. RandiFan1290 Nov 2018 #151

I have a new friend Hillary supporter for many years marlakay Nov 2018 #162

Threads like these hurt the party! Catch2.2 Nov 2018 #187

I agree. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #152

YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. calimary Nov 2018 #155

Many people agree with you and... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #369

this is inconsiderate to Bernie supporters KayF Nov 2018 #159

I agree with the consensus BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #166

When people criticize Nancy Pelosi and say she should resign from leadership, do you also say pnwmom Nov 2018 #182

I might KayF Nov 2018 #189

You haven't though. And you are clearly one of the people who think she should step down. pnwmom Nov 2018 #194

... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #314

I doubt that sanders will either release his tax returns or agree to be a member of the party Gothmog Nov 2018 #174

as requested hell674 Nov 2018 #237

To comply with ballot access laws sanders will need five or ten years complete returns Gothmog Nov 2018 #246

you have some reason to think hell674 Nov 2018 #251

there are real questions about commissions paid for tv ads used in the California primary Gothmog Nov 2018 #272

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Bear Creek Nov 2018 #184

I disagree Catch2.2 Nov 2018 #185

I agree. He had his moment. He had his chance. Yes, I know Debbie... SKKY Nov 2018 #186

Stop with the Bernie hate! Catch2.2 Nov 2018 #188

No, I think The Russians were pushing the false narrative that the Democratic primary results... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #339

Seems like we have bigger fish to fry than criticizing Bernie and Michael Moore. PatrickforO Nov 2018 #193

Yeah, he's free to say whatever he wants, even if it sounds like he's excusing racists. pnwmom Nov 2018 #196

Not really... Catch2.2 Nov 2018 #318

Abso-fucking-lutely... SidDithers Nov 2018 #197

What? He's not a Democrat? Why hasn't anyone made this point before? ProfessorPlum Nov 2018 #200

Wait, he's NOT a Democrat? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #204

Amen! chillfactor Nov 2018 #206

Could he knit pink pussy hats? RainCaster Nov 2018 #215

Damn Straight! Cha Nov 2018 #216

I live in Vermont and just voted again for Bernie.. Izzy Blue Nov 2018 #218

They may have been following the unofficial rule about not talking about investigations 60 days.... George II Nov 2018 #225

I was a delegate to the national convention Gothmog Nov 2018 #221

sorry to disappoint but I've been BEGGING Hillary & Bernie to both run again as Ds. Sunlei Nov 2018 #222

This doesn't like too bad a result to me linuxuser3 Nov 2018 #224

"If he isn't going to join us" - He's a member of the Democratic Senate caucus... PoliticAverse Nov 2018 #226

This Bernie bashing gets us nowhere. Erda Nov 2018 #229

So the question is... those STILL uncomfortable, after Obama... dawg day Nov 2018 #329

BS isn't helping when he's covering for Cha Nov 2018 #231

"Go retire, Bernie. You harm the country more than you help it." billpolonsky Nov 2018 #233

hmmm elmac Nov 2018 #238

KICK! Cha Nov 2018 #240

Maybe it's time for him to hand off the torch but the entire Democratic Party is now a lot closer to Quixote1818 Nov 2018 #243

Just No.. All BS has had are insults to Cha Nov 2018 #252

Hi doll! fleabiscuit Nov 2018 #278

Hi flea! Cha Nov 2018 #285

Yes, we put a torpedo into the bow of the republthug boat. fleabiscuit Nov 2018 #295

I saw on here all that unfolding.. and Cha Nov 2018 #328

K&R betsuni Nov 2018 #244

Such Rancor colsohlibgal Nov 2018 #245

Do you agree with his recent comments about racists? n/t pnwmom Nov 2018 #253

The day he unites DU is the day I will believe he's gonna win the Dem ticket Bfd Nov 2018 #255

Unless.. Tavarious Jackson Nov 2018 #269

Seems pretty simple to me Vinnie From Indy Nov 2018 #257

LOL. It really is that simple. Declare as a Dem, & turn over his taxes Bfd Nov 2018 #262

Exactly seta1950 Nov 2018 #264

No. woofless Nov 2018 #266

No. FDR was an internationalist, a free-trader, a pro-capitalist... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #340

I saw "The Way We Were" the other day, and Streisand's character didn't like FDR betsuni Nov 2018 #344

Correct. The far-left attacked FDR as a warmonger, and a corporatist plutocrat... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #361

He is ok when we need his vote nvme Nov 2018 #274

Perhaps if he had a D after his name Glamrock Nov 2018 #276

If you're fine with corporate control of healthcare, and if you think college should be bankrupting Marty Marzipan Nov 2018 #277

Give some fucking names, any fucking name. JHan Nov 2018 #280

There are never any fucking names, no examples of these imaginary Democrats. betsuni Nov 2018 #281

or one who wishes for "corporate control of healthcare", just more bullshit boilerplate memes. JHan Nov 2018 #282

The propaganda is so silly, I'm embarrassed for anyone shilling it. betsuni Nov 2018 #284

all to defend a shit statement. This is where we've reached. JHan Nov 2018 #299

Democrats have been on it and made progress on both those issues well before and without, Sanders. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #322

Yeah...That racist Bernie Sanders... Jack Bone Nov 2018 #286

Bernie Sanders was just re-elected. Eric J in MN Nov 2018 #287

And that's Great! jon k Nov 2018 #294

The GOP uses him less than it uses Clinton and Pelosi. That's a pretty bad reason to suggest JCanete Nov 2018 #293

+1000 Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #333

Beware IndianaKev Nov 2018 #298

Would you like Vermont to sail off, too? janterry Nov 2018 #303

Have you considered diversifying? delisen Nov 2018 #311

I live right across the river from you so I'm really aware of Vermont politics. Vinca Nov 2018 #355

Canvassed for him, should not run again, horrified by racist comment but get it lostnfound Nov 2018 #305

+1000 great post. This is the best post on this thread. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #317

Well thank you lostnfound Nov 2018 #358

You are very welcome...been gone helping kids lay floor. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #377

Bernie threads are like buses. If you miss one another will be along in ten minutes. dameatball Nov 2018 #326

Another barge load of this kind of stuff empedocles Nov 2018 #327

It seems that some of sanders progressives were the margin of victory for DeSantis Gothmog Nov 2018 #334

This message was self-deleted by its author Croney Nov 2018 #353

Yes, and the Rethugs love it, and will try to make it happen every time. Croney Nov 2018 #354

Rove used Nader just as Putin/Trump used Stein and sanders Gothmog Nov 2018 #359

Or maybe... williamgreen Nov 2018 #335

Welcome to DU. Hold onto your hat! marble falls Nov 2018 #337

OK fleabiscuit Nov 2018 #341

Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #349

... betsuni Nov 2018 #351

... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #365

So jarring to see authoritrianism like Trump's on the right. pdsimdars Nov 2018 #352