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Celerity

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169. I dont see anyone going after any of the others, they all worked in unison for weeks
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 04:18 PM
Nov 2018
Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Claire McCaskill of Missouri, Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, Mazie Hirono of Hawaii, Kamala Harris of California, Patty Murray of Washington and Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin kicked off the stampede on Wednesday, all putting out statements within minutes of one another saying it was time for Franken to go.

Within the next 90 minutes, 16 Democrats -- 10 of them women -- and one Republican senator -- Susan Collins of Maine -- had publicly urged their colleague to vacate his seat.

Women Democratic senators had been talking behind the scenes for at least the past week about how to deal with Franken, multiple aides told CNN.


If Gillibrand truly is that powerful that she can, (from a non top leadership position) cause every single Democratic Caucus Senator, save Manchin (and the 4 listed above who did nothing one way or the other due to legal issues) to help oust a powerful fellow Senator, then we would be crazy to not run her against the white nationalist scum Trump.

It is selective, revisionist scapegoating, and the rat pack mentality on here (ironically mirroring the very thing almost all our Senators did to Franken) that slurs and slams a really solid Democratic female Senator and turns her into a Two Minutes Of Hate-style demon is so so very sad for me to see.

Some of the comments I have seen here since I joined venture into 'burn the witch territory'. It's disgusting to see.

Edited to add:

There is zero chance that our leadership, especially Schumer, didn't know what was going on, and approve. Either that or they are so out of touch and utterly ineffectual at controlling our own Senatorial Caucus that they deserve to be removed and replaced post haste.

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Nope. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #1
I am sure she is, as are a few others still_one Nov 2018 #2
Will someone not do her a favor & clue her in? She will not get the support. hlthe2b Nov 2018 #6
Then she won't be the nominee. I think there will be plenty of good candidates in the ring still_one Nov 2018 #40
I'd love to support a competent, brilliant, dedicated woman candidate at top of the ticket ... hlthe2b Nov 2018 #3
+1 dalton99a Nov 2018 #7
Exactly my position too. What she did to Al will always follow her. brush Nov 2018 #33
And Bernie Sanders called for him to resign too ... doesn't seem to be following him around here n/t SFnomad Nov 2018 #50
There is a double standard for all things related to Bernie. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #51
+1 n/t SFnomad Nov 2018 #53
And quoting his words is "bashing." betsuni Nov 2018 #88
also with all things related to Kirsten Gillibrand crazycatlady Nov 2018 #92
She was the ringleader, besides, Sanders has other things dogging him. brush Nov 2018 #91
The ringleader. That just sounds so ridiculous and juvenile. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #94
Oh, please. And you wrote that with a straight face. brush Nov 2018 #95
So what exactly would that say about the gullibility of those you insist just followed the leader? MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #97
So back Klobuchar. She didn't jump in the bandwagon to oust a fellow Dem. brush Nov 2018 #100
Led the charge? Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #106
Go back and research. She was very much in the forefront of that whole... brush Nov 2018 #115
I have Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #116
Good that she won her seat in the Senate. She won't do well in a presidential run though... brush Nov 2018 #117
Yes keep telling yourself that Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #120
It's already true. We all saw it happen. brush Nov 2018 #129
No Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #139
She did what she did. Can't deny it. brush Nov 2018 #140
And so did 38 others Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #146
It's ok to fault the others as well, although she was most prominent. brush Nov 2018 #148
Yes they all deserve to be Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #158
She will make a great Presidential candidate. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #124
I don't have to knock myself out. She knocked herself out with the Franken gambit. brush Nov 2018 #128
She might have lost some DUers with misplaced anger. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #130
We're lucky all right as we have several good candidates. brush Nov 2018 #132
Indeed we do! MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #133
Well said nt Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #141
It is Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #121
That's extreme Newland56 Nov 2018 #134
Yes she was the first Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #144
here are a good articles backing that up Celerity Nov 2018 #153
Thanks Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #160
Sad that they all jumped on the bandwagon. brush Nov 2018 #161
Yes Newland56 Nov 2018 #162
Oh yeah. Gullible, ambitious and poor judgment is not a good combination for... brush Nov 2018 #164
I dont see anyone going after any of the others, they all worked in unison for weeks Celerity Nov 2018 #169
Of course she's running Renew Deal Nov 2018 #4
I'd rather vote for Al Franken. PubliusEnigma Nov 2018 #5
Perfect! Brainstormy Nov 2018 #32
Second that onetexan Nov 2018 #62
Third wellst0nev0ter Nov 2018 #65
Exactly. SMC22307 Nov 2018 #78
My sentiments X 1000. (nt) Paladin Nov 2018 #123
I would certainly support her in the general Takket Nov 2018 #8
Vote blue no matter who in the general but in the primary... no Fullduplexxx Nov 2018 #39
He prodded her and after walking around the block to get to her back door peekaloo Nov 2018 #9
We have known this since Dec 2017. She's an effective Senator. Autumn Nov 2018 #10
I'm undecided on "effective." In It to Win It Nov 2018 #13
I'm not undecided, she was very effective. It didn't take long at all for her Autumn Nov 2018 #17
I'm of the opinion that what you describe is drastically different from being... In It to Win It Nov 2018 #26
Did I say she was legislatively effective? No I did not. I said she was Autumn Nov 2018 #30
I think it's the same thing... In It to Win It Nov 2018 #34
Think what you want. I don't have skills to read what's not said while you obviously do Autumn Nov 2018 #37
What legislation has she passed? Bradshaw3 Nov 2018 #47
I agree... In It to Win It Nov 2018 #49
You asked Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #110
Forcing an by election on a previously safe seat is NOT effective wellst0nev0ter Nov 2018 #66
She was effective in getting Franken out of his seat wasn't she? Autumn Nov 2018 #68
Yep, guess we can give her credit for that wellst0nev0ter Nov 2018 #70
I hope she doesn't run. I get angry every time I see her. Autumn Nov 2018 #71
Had to beat back a gag reflex when voting for her Tuesday wellst0nev0ter Nov 2018 #72
+1 dhol82 Nov 2018 #79
Tina Smith won by 11% Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #113
"A long, hard thought of consideration". In Sen. Franken's case, not so much. oasis Nov 2018 #11
+1. It was execution before investigation dalton99a Nov 2018 #15
+1000 nt USALiberal Nov 2018 #23
No thanks. In It to Win It Nov 2018 #12
She really shouldn't run. Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #14
I'm OK with her thinking long and hard DFW Nov 2018 #16
Agree. dhol82 Nov 2018 #81
Of course, I'd support her if she gets the nomination BUT EffieBlack Nov 2018 #18
Same way I feel! Nt USALiberal Nov 2018 #21
Ditto! smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #55
Likewise Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 #89
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! democratisphere Nov 2018 #19
I think Adam Schiff has great 2020 potential. In It to Win It Nov 2018 #27
Agreed! democratisphere Nov 2018 #36
I just wish he had a bit more charisma dhol82 Nov 2018 #82
I agree 100% In It to Win It Nov 2018 #83
Look forward to donating to whoever runs against her!! Nt USALiberal Nov 2018 #20
Gosh, I'm just tingling . . . hatrack Nov 2018 #22
Nope. Not a vote from me. ret5hd Nov 2018 #24
Lolz. Color me shocked. OnDoutside Nov 2018 #25
In order, if they run, I will support in the Dem primary. Blue_true Nov 2018 #28
Harris called for Franken to resign too. Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #107
I like Gillibrand. Blue_true Nov 2018 #114
no thanks shanny Nov 2018 #29
I have never heard of "a long hard thought of consideration" bedazzled Nov 2018 #31
Don't Bother Kirsten-Americans Remember How You Helped Railroad Al Franken dlk Nov 2018 #35
Yes you could hear the disapproval of her from Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #108
No vote here, the Franken mess will be remembered forever. sarcasmo Nov 2018 #38
She's definitely in my Top 10 and possibly in my top 5. SaschaHM Nov 2018 #41
Everything else aside. I'm not sure if we should run a New Yorker against a New Yorker ck4829 Nov 2018 #42
There's an old joke about an elderly man who was a "yellow dog" Democrat Glorfindel Nov 2018 #43
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #44
No way after what she did to Al Franken. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #45
LOL.... NOPE. NT Adrahil Nov 2018 #46
Now that Franken is out of the way lame54 Nov 2018 #48
Al Franken workinclasszero Nov 2018 #52
Won't vote for her in the primary. octoberlib Nov 2018 #54
Gillibrand can stop thinking about running... her candidacy is over before it even started. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #56
Only in the general, tavernier Nov 2018 #57
God I hope not. I would be hard pressed to vote for her. I would if she were the Dem candidate but wasupaloopa Nov 2018 #58
She is a great Senator but she does not have that "IT" factor that we desperately need. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #69
I don't like the way she got Al Franken out of office without any kind wasupaloopa Nov 2018 #73
No. Sherrod Brown or Steve Bulloch. Not someone from the far east or far west. LBM20 Nov 2018 #59
Nope Lotusflower70 Nov 2018 #60
Noping out on this one... JCMach1 Nov 2018 #61
No thank you. She rubs me the WRONG way. I don't trust her judgement. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #63
As much thought as she gave to throwing Al Franken under the bus? milestogo Nov 2018 #64
She believed a birther over Franken wellst0nev0ter Nov 2018 #67
My short easy answer: never will I ever vote for you.. ananda Nov 2018 #74
I enjoyed the show. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #75
While she's thinking about it The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #76
No Mojo2 Nov 2018 #77
Wait shes doing a u-turn now....thats not good. Historic NY Nov 2018 #80
That's quite a hit piece you've linked there. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #135
You think, she said it in her debate Historic NY Nov 2018 #143
What does that have to do with linking to a hit piece that favors the republican? MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #145
Nah. I'll pass on this nt Sunsky Nov 2018 #84
Hell no budkin Nov 2018 #85
I can think of 40-50 others I'd rather vote for Horse with no Name Nov 2018 #86
I will vote for ANY Democrat, even her, just hop0ing it's not. nt Baltimike Nov 2018 #87
I've never seen a Democrat so hated on a DEMOCRATIC forum crazycatlady Nov 2018 #90
I will pass..she threw Franken under the bus and ran over him a few times. Nt helpisontheway Nov 2018 #93
Hahahahaha! Backed up a couple times and gunned it, huh? brush Nov 2018 #151
After Franken? No thanks. Luciferous Nov 2018 #96
I like Martin O'Malley. nt NCjack Nov 2018 #98
If she were from a smaller, less media rich state, we'd never be hearing about her. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2018 #99
Zero Chance Mojo2 Nov 2018 #101
Next itsrobert Nov 2018 #102
Nope nope nope... LakeArenal Nov 2018 #103
I'll give voting for Gillibrand in the 2020 Primary a 'long, hard thought of consideration' revmclaren Nov 2018 #104
Nope lunamagica Nov 2018 #105
It wouldn't matter because she'll be quickly shocked at how poorly she fares Awsi Dooger Nov 2018 #109
Poorly she fares? Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #112
Brave of you to post this Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #111
Not going to happen. unitedwethrive Nov 2018 #118
She just won re-election in New York by 33 points. oberliner Nov 2018 #119
She is very popular in NY Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #122
What bubble do you have to live in to think that those popular in NY have countrywide appeal? LisaL Nov 2018 #125
Hillary Clinton Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #138
Hillary lost the election to Trump. LisaL Nov 2018 #142
She won the popular vote. Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #147
No she's not mtnsnake Nov 2018 #154
Cuomo got 59% Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #157
You're judging Gillibrand's popularity by the cheer she received on The Late Show? LOL mtnsnake Nov 2018 #167
No Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #168
Who argued she's not more popular and well-known on the east coast? LanternWaste Nov 2018 #171
Not a fan Vinnie From Indy Nov 2018 #126
Gillibrand would get crushed in the Democraitc Primary but what scares me most mtnsnake Nov 2018 #127
She just crushed her election with 66.5% of the votes. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #131
Was she primaried? Sunsky Nov 2018 #137
Do yourself a favor and count the anti v pro posts on this long thread... brush Nov 2018 #152
We've all seen the DU bubbles before. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #155
DU is made up of Democrats across the country. brush Nov 2018 #156
Ok. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #159
Not a fan Mr. Ected Nov 2018 #136
Not ever. Not after Franken. We need someone with intelligence, not a tendency Doremus Nov 2018 #149
And I'm giving her a long, hard pass. n/t BlueStater Nov 2018 #150
If she is the Democratic nominee in 2020, I will support her. Different Drummer Nov 2018 #163
NO absolutely no! After what she did to Franken NO Thekaspervote Nov 2018 #165
I still have bitter feelings for her for what she did to Al Franken kimbutgar Nov 2018 #166
Ugh MoonRiver Nov 2018 #170
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