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Qutzupalotl

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9. It's not unlikely Mueller has had everything from the beginning,
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 06:15 PM
Nov 2018

i.e., audio intercepts from our allies. But he also understands the necessity of not burning sources, especially allied intel. He would likely need a long time to find a way to build a case that does not involve the intercepts. My gut tells me this part is done. There is also the matter of countersuits questioning his legitimacy. While those legal arguments may be questionable, their use as propaganda could be formidable. Mueller will need to get favorable court rulings in both to solidify his legitimacy with the whole of the public — which he will need.

Mueller is demonstrably a patriot, and will try to avert a civil war; but he will not accommodate a traitor. He knows how to take down an organized criminal mob.

I do believe Mueller has thought this through and planned for the possibility the Democrats would win back the House, giving them their sole constitutional remedy for this situation. Before you say Republicans control the Senate and will never convict, I say: Never say never. We do not know the depth of depravity Mueller has uncovered. We do not know who in Congress has been indicted already. We do not know who will be left standing.

I urge patience and steady resolve.

How close is Mueller? [View all] brettdale Nov 2018 OP
I hope he is close TEB Nov 2018 #1
Rumors are that he'll wrap things up by the end of year. nmgaucho Nov 2018 #2
I don't know at what point, but I have a hunch that 2019 Downtown Hound Nov 2018 #3
Ready to go but on hold at the instructions of Whitaker California_Republic Nov 2018 #4
Tribe says Mueller doesn't have to follow Whitakers orders since he is illegally installed. triron Nov 2018 #7
Mueller follows current boss so as not to be insubordinate California_Republic Nov 2018 #8
Mueller does have to report it to Congress DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #28
Wow, excellent point! lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #29
My gut says post January 3 RainCaster Nov 2018 #5
Very good point! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #6
+1 Quemado Nov 2018 #15
My gut and my brain, too. My heart would rather tomorrow, but that wouldn't make sense. n/t pnwmom Nov 2018 #19
It's not unlikely Mueller has had everything from the beginning, Qutzupalotl Nov 2018 #9
I'm not as sure that Mueller is hell bent on bringing trump down. Hoyt Nov 2018 #10
The fact that he outsourced some prosecutions to other jurisdictions like New York Squinch Nov 2018 #16
But it's not trump, his kids, or anyone like that. That's the problem. Hoyt Nov 2018 #17
You don't know that. No one does. But we DO know that the Trump org pnwmom Nov 2018 #23
If there is evidence on trump, and I suspect there is, it's time to start levying charges. Hoyt Nov 2018 #27
Not isn't time till they have ENOUGH evidence to guarantee a conviction -- as they almost always do pnwmom Nov 2018 #32
Fine, we'll be waiting in 2025 after all the damage is done. n/t Hoyt Nov 2018 #33
Indictments and guilty pleas aren't rumors. nt greyl Nov 2018 #20
Who has been indicted for collusion? Both Cohen and Manaforte were indicted for charges unrelated to Hoyt Nov 2018 #30
This is already NOTHING like Fitzmas. pnwmom Nov 2018 #21
except for all the indictments and guilty admissions and agreements to cooperate.. n/t wroberts189 Nov 2018 #26
Not close at all! nt USALiberal Nov 2018 #11
I'll bet anything he's got a bunch of sealed indictments that could drop in a nanosecond. Vinca Nov 2018 #12
I have no idea where the Mueller investigation stands. I think we sometimes lose sight of the dameatball Nov 2018 #13
2019 Spring Irishxs Nov 2018 #14
The new House is installed on January 3, 2019. We won't have to wait till spring just for that. n/t pnwmom Nov 2018 #22
Given the massive criminality that we all know Donald J Trump has been involved in... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #18
I'm sure that's true, but couldn't he get started on the most egregious crimes smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #24
My guess is the first day of the new Dem House in January............ sunonmars Nov 2018 #25
My gut knows that all it's going to get when it starts Hortensis Nov 2018 #31
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