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calimary

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14. That's because there have been no consequences for this stuff.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:40 AM
Nov 2018

They’ve learned that they can cheat like this and THEY WON’T GET CAUGHT. It’s the getting caught - and having to pay a penalty for it - that matters. One of many good things about Watergate was that EVERYBODY involved had to face the music. From the lower tiers and peripheral figures to the big names - all the big names. All the way up to the president himself. Many had to serve actual time in prison.

There should be consequences for bad behavior. Because bad behavior is antisocial and has multiple negative impacts on the commons - the community, the climate, the institutions, the law, the social conventions, the collective - that knits is together as a cohesive society that serves everyone in it. Where everybody follows the rules for the most part, and minds their manners and obeys the law and gets along. Everybody drives in the same directions on the road. Everybody shares a general agreement in various kinds of acceptable behavior. And limitations on same. That sort of thing.

And when you have utterly reckless lawlessness, where Machiavelli is really who’s President, and you don’t have to face any consequences when you do something wrong, what’s to deter you from doing it again? If you know nobody will hold you accountable, why follow the rules? It’s “Rules? WHAT rules?” If you know there won’t be consequences for bad behavior, where’s the motivation to change that bad behavior?

I think that knowing something is wrong, or sinful, or illegal, can be a deterrent. Not for everybody, certainly. Absolutely! There are those who believe they’re above such things. Rules don’t apply. And they can do anything they damn well feel like doing and get away with it.

And unfortunately they’re either in the White House or aggressively covering for the ones in the White House.

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thanks for sharing. Great news! Nitram Nov 2018 #1
I will never understand DownriverDem Nov 2018 #2
The cheating party runs the state. In It to Win It Nov 2018 #4
Conflict of interests NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #7
That's because there have been no consequences for this stuff. calimary Nov 2018 #14
Frankly, it strikes me as ridiculous that any sitting Secretary of State with Chief Election Officer KPN Nov 2018 #11
K&R... spanone Nov 2018 #3
Possible criminals allowed to be involved duforsure Nov 2018 #5
This ruling gives the Dems until Friday Nov. 16th to find more votes for Stacey FakeNoose Nov 2018 #6
Dang! Florida Republicans are now enjoined to perform in good faith . . . MrModerate Nov 2018 #8
K&R MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #9
I see that 'someone' noted on her wiki page, a 2008 donation to Pres Obama irisblue Nov 2018 #10
Hope Kemp's election mischief is exposed triron Nov 2018 #12
K&R 2naSalit Nov 2018 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author karin_sj Nov 2018 #15
It's so frigging blatant and shameless! karin_sj Nov 2018 #16
It's the Jeb Bush*/Katherine Harris* model. Raster Nov 2018 #17
...thousands of provisional ballots... littlemissmartypants Nov 2018 #18
So Kemp resigned because he thought he'd won. Does that mean he is no longer running this election, Amaryllis Nov 2018 #19
There's runoff for GA SoS on Dec 4. CottonBear Nov 2018 #20
That doesnt answer the question if he is running elections now since he resigned, or was his Amaryllis Nov 2018 #21
He is no longer SoS. There is an acting SoS now. CottonBear Nov 2018 #23
That's what i was wondering and that is good news! Do you know anything about his next in line Amaryllis Nov 2018 #24
No, but I personally know Democratic candidate John Barrow . CottonBear Nov 2018 #27
Here ya go - Gov. Deal appointed Robyn Crittenden, who was diva77 Nov 2018 #26
Kick dalton99a Nov 2018 #22
KR! Cha Nov 2018 #25
What Provisionals will actually be counted? forthemiddle Nov 2018 #28
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