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A Simple Game

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109. Let's try again one more time.

Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:12 AM

Jan 2012

You said, "As another poster said, in answer to you, 'his advocacy as a senatorial candidate was not a presidential promise' Now quote where I said President Obama ever made a "Presidential Promise" for single payer. None of the stupid misdirection, just quote me saying President Obama made a "Presidential Promise". You damn well can't because I didn't. I don't think I can improve on ""President Obama didn't promise it".

But I know I'm wasting my time because you haven't answered any of my other questions, I don't think you will, and I don't think you can.

If you have a problem with Barack Obama being a proponent of single payer and then President Obama doing a flip/flop, that's not my problem, you will just have to get over it somehow.

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+1000 -- Getting Progressives elected to Congress is Job 1 for 2012 LongTomH Jan 2012 #7

I agree Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #17

Exactly. nt cstanleytech Jan 2012 #49

Yes Yes Yes YES! jonthebru Jan 2012 #59

+1000 deacon Jan 2012 #72

So IYO Liberals are incapable of both criticizing Obama and voting for Progressive Candidates Bandit Jan 2012 #81

Organizing caucus voters to vote "uncommitted" on Obama Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #83

Did I miss it when the president "promised single payer"? Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #87

If you missed it Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #99

"Of course, as we know, conservatives are just big fat liars (hypocrites)." Agreed. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #104

I agree Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #110

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And Presidents. RC Jan 2012 #108

Stop me ProSense Jan 2012 #6

Oh, just some ignorant dumbass. DevonRex Jan 2012 #9

Check post number 64 for your ignorant dumbass. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2012 #65

Was that supposed to prove your point? "Senate" Candidate Obama agreed with the premise... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #88

Did you read post number 64? You only need to read the header. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2012 #90

You need to re-read the o.p. which clearly states that Pres. Obama "promised single payer". Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #96

I don't know how to make this any plainer, the first five words in my header are below. A Simple Game Jan 2012 #101

You directed DevonRex to post #64. WTF was the point of that? You didn't answer the..... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #103

Let's try again one more time. A Simple Game Jan 2012 #109

Ah, I see. You don't lie, you just mislead. "Flip-Flop"? Nice try, but no cigar. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #112

Not trying to imply he broke a promise. A Simple Game Jan 2012 #114

Yeah, I sure would like a link to where Obama promised single payer MH1 Jan 2012 #32

He DID promise the public option before he backed away from it. RC Jan 2012 #37

Any president can make promises though RC cstanleytech Jan 2012 #51

President Obama didn't promise it, but senate candidate Obama said he was a proponent for it. A Simple Game Jan 2012 #64

Massive difference between promising something and advocating something. joshcryer Jan 2012 #75

Some might say he was for it before he was against it. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2012 #91

I'd say he was against it. joshcryer Jan 2012 #92

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Right Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #13

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What's your prescription then? Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #45

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Obama's advice to "hold his feet to the fire" does NOT mean lying about his positions and jenmito Jan 2012 #38

Uncommitted means just that, so please stop with the hyperbole. theaocp Jan 2012 #42

No hyperbole: jenmito Jan 2012 #52

I read that as saying not voting for him in the caucus. theaocp Jan 2012 #57

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Hm, what's your point? jenmito Jan 2012 #54

The occupation ended because Iraq in the end forced a withdrawal. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #73

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Yes I do. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #80

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Isn't it interesting ProSense Jan 2012 #18

Yup... jenmito Jan 2012 #25

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Take it up with PolitiFact which rated it, "Promise Kept": jenmito Jan 2012 #58

Would this be the same source you are referring to? ejbr Jan 2012 #93

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Exactly! Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #19

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Then alert on it slay Jan 2012 #85

Nice start! Go Democratic primary process! Go progressive! K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #44

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Kick !!! WillyT Jan 2012 #60

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