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The Mouth

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92. Any party in power
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 02:01 PM
Nov 2018

draws districts to their advantage.

They'd be utter fools not to.

Not that the Repubs aren't cheating ratfuckers, but it's silly to pretend that we're perfectly righteous. Illinois' 7th is a thing of geometrical beauty, at least to this poli-sci geek . And Maryland's 3rd, which we hold is... well, creative.

Thus the joke that 'Gerrymandering' is what you call it when the *OTHER* party does it (and 'ensuring fair and representative districts' is what we call it when we do it).

That's why it's best to take it out of the hands of politicians.

Personally I think it should be given to mathematicians, with the instructions to draw the most COMPACT districts with the most equal number of residents, however those end up. Guaranteed to be hated by both sides.

It's why control of statehouses is absolutely crucial to eventually taking the congress and white house. If a party can control the legislature in the census year they can optimize gains next election.

Edited to add various bits of data...

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K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #1
Pennsylvania is the perfect example of how getting rid of gerrymandering makes things fair. Vinca Nov 2018 #2
Yes absolutely! FakeNoose Nov 2018 #41
Only the PA state GOP leaders hate the new map DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #45
But the Pennsylvania state-level House and Senate districts are still gerrymandered meow2u3 Nov 2018 #57
YES Please!!! Texas especially needs help with this! Dem_4_Life Nov 2018 #3
Yes Texas is the worst ananda Nov 2018 #15
This is just one part of our big democracy reform plan. Hortensis Nov 2018 #44
Sounds like a winner to me DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #46
:) Yes! As Rep. Sarbanes says, we intend to do it all. Hortensis Nov 2018 #48
Lovely. Hopeful! mahina Nov 2018 #79
Wisconsin is horribly rigged. Greybnk48 Nov 2018 #4
So is Ohio. True Blue American Nov 2018 #40
The states will probably take them to court over it if such a thing passes. WillowTree Nov 2018 #5
Is handling an election different from determining apportionment? 3Hotdogs Nov 2018 #20
That's among the things that the courts might have to decide. WillowTree Nov 2018 #77
And NC: Dems get 50% of vote but only 3 of 13 seats. That's how those fuckers cheat. CurtEastPoint Nov 2018 #6
+1. USA is progressive liberal nation if remove gerrymandering, dirty tricks, & voter suppression. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2018 #7
So true FakeNoose Nov 2018 #43
and THEN, BRUTAL prison sentences for anyone convicted of voter suppression from now on! BamaRefugee Nov 2018 #8
Yes!!!! Roland99 Nov 2018 #9
Fantastic start NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #10
They will not bring it to the floor..no need to explain Le Gaucher Nov 2018 #26
Michigan voted 61.27% yes on prop 2. It's very popular Snotcicles Nov 2018 #11
AZ has this and we have 5 D and 4 R in Congress grantcart Nov 2018 #14
The Republicans have everything so gerrymandered in Michigan the people revolted. nt Snotcicles Nov 2018 #63
Yes they need to go after this LostinRed Nov 2018 #12
That's a big benefit. Pointing a finger right in the crooked Repubs face Bfd Nov 2018 #21
HEAR! HEAR! littlemissmartypants Nov 2018 #13
I'm loving the Leaders of our January Dem Majority. Bfd Nov 2018 #29
Me too, Bfd. Me too! nt littlemissmartypants Nov 2018 #31
Quickly.. homegirl Nov 2018 #16
How about this one, Congressman? DFW Nov 2018 #17
awesome! unblock Nov 2018 #18
not sure how congress can get rid of gerrymandering as it's up to the states. unblock Nov 2018 #19
States must abide by Federal law. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2018 #33
Not where the constitution explicitly gives a power to the states unblock Nov 2018 #42
equal protection under the law Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #59
proper case is easy. proper scotus... not so much.... unblock Nov 2018 #60
non-partisan commission Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #61
Independent commissions would work... for a while unblock Nov 2018 #62
in other words, all is lost, just cease trying? Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #69
I mentioned improvements. Or we could get rid of geographical districts entirely unblock Nov 2018 #71
Article 1, Section 4: NYC Liberal Nov 2018 #67
++++ a million Bfd Nov 2018 #78
My heart is jumping out of my chest!!! Fairness! Democracy! Every vote counts! Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #22
Please! It is completely unfair AllyCat Nov 2018 #23
California has certainly benefited from fair districting. NBachers Nov 2018 #24
+10000000000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!! LAS14 Nov 2018 #25
Let's be realistic, however ashling Nov 2018 #27
But we gotta do the work. Can us that Senate didn't cooperate in the 2020 elections iluvtennis Nov 2018 #30
Nobody is going to be paying any attention to what the Trumpflakes think. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2018 #34
Realistic is Democratic senate, house and presidency Hortensis Nov 2018 #85
Bravo iluvtennis Nov 2018 #28
Doesn't get better than Adam Schiff. zentrum Nov 2018 #32
Start with Ohio. Please!! blueinredohio Nov 2018 #35
I heard that a couple of familiar looking dudes had been working on this already, no? FailureToCommunicate Nov 2018 #36
Who better? I am sure Schiff has been/will be in consultation. What a team. nt Hekate Nov 2018 #38
Bravo Adam Schiff Hekate Nov 2018 #37
Please start with Wisconsin! We just re-elected Tammy Baldwin to the Senate with a 10% margin, yet Still In Wisconsin Nov 2018 #39
NOW we're talking! calimary Nov 2018 #47
Yes. The EC has become useless to a fair election. A point of corruption, & it is time to go Bfd Nov 2018 #49
This is so Surreal! Life Cha Nov 2018 #50
Schiff doesn't get it...congressional districts is a state function and NO democratic beachbum bob Nov 2018 #51
Some info for you Kaleva Nov 2018 #52
Unless McConnel signs on, it dies. beachbum bob Nov 2018 #53
AWESOME!!! This I fully support as the first item up! Firebrand Gary Nov 2018 #54
Love, LOVE.. LOOOOVE this!! Amimnoch Nov 2018 #55
Except the federal government has no authority over gerrymandering. former9thward Nov 2018 #56
Subject to judicial review. And Democratic house -- Census!! Hortensis Nov 2018 #86
I endorse this message. kentuck Nov 2018 #58
Can't argue with that agenda... Wounded Bear Nov 2018 #64
Hear, Hear! smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #65
Yes, slow play a reversing everything GOP, Saturday night massacre style ffr Nov 2018 #66
Kick SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #68
Agree Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 #70
Feds can order states many a good man Nov 2018 #73
Yay!! Go, Adam Schiff! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2018 #72
When the GOP can no longer lie and cheat it's way to power, their dwindling Enoki33 Nov 2018 #74
About time Generic Brad Nov 2018 #75
Or in 2016. Bfd Nov 2018 #83
I would like to see them focus on health care. nt spooky3 Nov 2018 #76
Well, of course? :) We're the healthcare party, and Hortensis Nov 2018 #87
This will actually help GOP voters jn the long run TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #80
Absolutely. Everything we do will help them. Hortensis Nov 2018 #88
It reminds me of Blazing Saddles TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #93
Just choked on my coffee Hortensis Nov 2018 #94
MAKE DC A STATE. TWO MORE SENATORS. sharedvalues Nov 2018 #81
This guy, I love this guy!!!!! bronxiteforever Nov 2018 #82
Outstanding! ewagner Nov 2018 #84
45's EPA has finally found a species worth saving from extinction ... nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2018 #89
Every side does it every chance they can The Mouth Nov 2018 #90
Who does it? Bfd Nov 2018 #91
Any party in power The Mouth Nov 2018 #92
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