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Hassin Bin Sober

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65. There was an amnesty offered by the IRS in 2009.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 11:18 AM
Aug 2012

One of the main targets of the the amnesty was Swiss bank accounts (Romney has Swiss accounts). This particular amnesty was driven mostly by the Swiss Government's agreement to release names of US tax cheats hiding money in Switzerland - an, until now, unprecedented breach of the tax cheats' "privacy." This resulted in tax cheats scurrying to their accountants and tax attorneys in record numbers.

To be eligible to avoid FELONY CRIMINAL CHARGES, Romney would first have to ADMIT in his amended returns he committed FELONY CRIMINAL TAX EVASION and then amend his returns accordingly.

That UN-PROSECUTED illegal behavior would be all over his 2009, 2008, 2007 etc. amended returns LIKE A RASH.

Romney was running for office in 2007 and 2008. That gave him plenty of time to pay and file taxes on his normal US income based on what he had to know would be scrutiny of his tax returns. He had plenty of time to structure his returns to show a "respectable" 13 or 14 percent effective tax rate for himself (like he did in 2010).

What Romney WOULDN'T have been able to foresee, or plan for, would be the Swiss Government's agreement to release names of tax cheats and the subsequent US amnesty program offered.

In other words, the "rules" of his game changed SUBSTANTIALLY and inconveniently while he was gaming the system.

I, and many others, believe paying ZERO taxes wouldn't even be result in the liability he is/will be facing for non-disclosure. In fact, as I stated up-thread, paying no taxes might garner him support among his most loony followers (see: Paul Ryan fans).

If his only problem is he didn't pay enough taxes, he could end the story in a couple days (a week?) by releasing his returns and explaining how it is "fair" and legal for a businessman to to take advantage of all available tax laws and loopholes.

If he committed and admitted to felony tax evasion he is DONE. And he knows it.




October 13 2009

Deadline looms for Americans to disclose accounts in foreign tax havens

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/oct/13/business/fi-swiss13

Under an amnesty program, the IRS is allowing taxpayers to avoid prosecution for failing to report those accounts. Tax attorneys have been besieged by wealthy clients who are lining up to apply.




Wealthy U.S. taxpayers, concerned about an Internal Revenue Service crackdown on the use of secret overseas bank accounts as tax havens, are rushing to meet a Thursday deadline to disclose those accounts or face possible criminal prosecution.

The concern was triggered this summer when Switzerland's largest bank, caught up in an international tax evasion dispute, said it would disclose the names of more than 4,000 of its U.S. account holders.


The decision shattered a long-held belief that Swiss banks would guard the identities of its American customers as carefully as they did their money, and it raised concern that other international tax havens might be next.

Under an amnesty program, the IRS is allowing taxpayers to avoid prosecution for having failed to report their overseas accounts. As a result, tax attorneys across the nation have been besieged by wealthy clients who are lining up to apply even though they will still face big financial penalties.

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Amnesty from Swiss Bank Account felony tax evasion is my guess. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #1
ditto Lil Missy Aug 2012 #2
double ditto lonestarnot Aug 2012 #3
zero income tax, there is a difference. lonestarnot Aug 2012 #5
Duly noted. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #9
See post #61. rocktivity Aug 2012 #66
Yep, I think you have a winner nt MrScorpio Aug 2012 #8
dingdingdingdingding! kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #24
Yep. Larry O'Donnell xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #35
Yep. He'd be their tax-dodging 'uhmeyeekan' hero official. Amonester Aug 2012 #36
I think so too! Which is why I am perplexed that he hasn't released them. nt LaydeeBug Aug 2012 #46
Yep, I agree... Spazito Aug 2012 #48
I agree. highplainsdem Aug 2012 #50
Yep. And taking a tax amnesty, like taking a Presidential pardon, requires and admission of Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #55
+1 denverbill Aug 2012 #57
That is simply absurd. You do not find the felony in what they file, just the opposite. 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #58
There was an amnesty offered by the IRS in 2009. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #65
i think he generously gave check after check to planned parenthood spanone Aug 2012 #4
I believe that not only did he pay $0 taxes, but he got huge refund. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #6
That would be the coup de main... Historic NY Aug 2012 #12
He has made out like a bandit under Obama's administration randr Aug 2012 #7
I hadn't thought about that. Good points. avaistheone1 Aug 2012 #28
Vindication PD Turk Aug 2012 #10
He deducted the dents the dog crate made in his car roof jmowreader Aug 2012 #11
I think that you're on to something. n/t FlyinButter Aug 2012 #13
Then there's that. Fifi tried to charge the TB folks for having TB, mentally retarded a fee for lonestarnot Aug 2012 #15
Would it be an impeachable offense...? kentuck Aug 2012 #14
Zero taxes paid for ten years. Ann confirmed it. onehandle Aug 2012 #16
Investment strategies, evidence of HubertHeaver Aug 2012 #17
His refusal to release them only adds fuel to the fire. subterranean Aug 2012 #18
I Kind of Doubt There's a Smoking Gun -- On the Road Aug 2012 #19
It doesn't have to be "illegal" to be blatantly hypocritical and "un-American" if you're running for MADem Aug 2012 #21
An effective tax rate of ZERO for more years than not, and amnesty from his shady Swiss stashes. MADem Aug 2012 #20
I believe within the foreign bank accounts Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #22
A whole lot of super rich people's tax loopholes. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #23
I think he took "special" advantage of the carried over interest provision passed by Bush* Samantha Aug 2012 #25
Lots of possibilities. Lack of 10% to the Mormon Church (after having bragged about doing so.) napi21 Aug 2012 #26
Either it's something that would NEVER allow Mitt to stay in the race (never mind get elected) rocktivity Aug 2012 #27
That pic makes no sense ...... oldhippie Aug 2012 #60
That pic makes PLENTY of sense to THEM, my friend. And "we people" had better keep asking why. rocktivity Aug 2012 #61
Lots of carried-over losses so Mitt-sie could balance income and also off-shore accounts n/t Vogon_Glory Aug 2012 #29
Not only did he not pay taxes, he made money off the government. nt Firebrand Gary Aug 2012 #30
simply put: proof that the 1% don't pay their fair share Skittles Aug 2012 #31
Felony evasion of taxes, settled thru amnesty. ;) silvershadow Aug 2012 #32
Nice. Wonder if the Obama camp would know about it. joshcryer Aug 2012 #33
I have no idea, though I can't imagine silvershadow Aug 2012 #34
Hope you're right. It's my favorite theory so far. joshcryer Aug 2012 #37
It would be epic indeed. I'm trying for figure out now how silvershadow Aug 2012 #39
Amnesty happened in 2009 so I don't think McCain would know about that piece of the puzzle. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #67
They may or may not know about it (through official channels) ... Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #68
No.1 guess. Is it is the amnesty thing. That is absolute dynamite to his campaign. Kalidurga Aug 2012 #38
Insider trading TomClash Aug 2012 #40
Wouldn't surprise me in the least. It's probably both. silvershadow Aug 2012 #41
Foriegn blocker corps Gothmog Aug 2012 #42
I could tell you davidpdx Aug 2012 #43
I'd like to add, if, as she claims, that for the past 10 years their investments are locked in a myrna minx Aug 2012 #44
Maybe every theory is true ThoughtCriminal Aug 2012 #45
I think his taxes are clean Courtesy Flush Aug 2012 #47
extent of foreign holdings--was struck by a statement by exxon that because it has so much foreign dembotoz Aug 2012 #49
Devalued stock prices of Bain takeovers, moved those into his IRA, and then inflated the stock price JoePhilly Aug 2012 #51
Obviously something they don't want us to know about. hobbit709 Aug 2012 #52
That's just it.... Bobbie Jo Aug 2012 #53
My guess matt819 Aug 2012 #54
Fruad and criminality, as well as short changing their beloved LDS..... Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #56
He Doesn't Tithe lies and propaganda Aug 2012 #59
Nothing. rrneck Aug 2012 #62
Payments to his other wives. ProSense Aug 2012 #63
WHY WON'T ANYONE IN THE MEDIA ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT THE TAX AMNESTY? swayne Aug 2012 #64
I think the (eventual) disclosure will reveal nothing illegal, yet advertise such an excessive amoun LanternWaste Aug 2012 #69
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