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muriel_volestrangler

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16. No, it's not sovereign soil
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 01:14 PM
Aug 2012

The Convention says the premises are inviolable, and immune from search, which is different:

Article 22
1.The premises of the mission shall be inviolable. The agents of the receiving State may not enter
them, except with the consent of the head of the mission.
2.The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises
of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the
mission or impairment of its dignity.
3.The premises of the mission, their furnishings and other property thereon and the means of
transport of the mission shall be immune from search, requisition, attachment or execution.

http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/texts/instruments/english/conventions/9_1_1961.pdf


If they did expel the diplomats, the immunity of the premises would end. That is clear from precedent.

In this case, Ecuador may not even own the premises outright, since they are just one part of a building. Think of it as a private residence for which no search warrant can be applied.

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If David Camerwrong approves this it will merely confirm what most have suspected for a long time... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #1
or vice-versa. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #11
Couldn't agree more, cali. Vidar Aug 2012 #2
I really really hope it is just a poorly advised bluff. morningfog Aug 2012 #3
The story was an over-reaction by Ecuador struggle4progress Aug 2012 #22
Cameron warned that they could go in, did he not? morningfog Aug 2012 #24
What exactly did the government say? nt hack89 Aug 2012 #4
Full (translated) text: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #6
Agreed. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #5
For some reason, this reminds me of... RevStPatrick Aug 2012 #7
This is madness. oldironside Aug 2012 #8
How Can they? Wolf Frankula Aug 2012 #10
you just know the US is pushing this response. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2012 #9
The UK cannot legally invade the Ecuador embassy. The threatening letter is a diplomatic Swagman Aug 2012 #12
There have been several cases in history when sovereign embassies were indeed violated. totodeinhere Aug 2012 #14
Not London, oldironside Aug 2012 #18
of course the UK can do any bloody thing they want and they do Swagman Aug 2012 #26
No, it's not sovereign soil muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #16
All of the strings being pulled here hifiguy Aug 2012 #13
Not precedent-setting at all. Robb Aug 2012 #15
Can you provide examples of Embassy immunity stripping for purposes of raids? morningfog Aug 2012 #25
I believe it is an untested statute that came about when PC Fletcher was shot dead Swagman Aug 2012 #29
I prefer to listen to learned British QCs and the former British ambassador Swagman Aug 2012 #27
yes, it would be. Sorry, but you are flat wrong cali Aug 2012 #28
I don't think they will storm the embassy. IMO that is just a bluff. totodeinhere Aug 2012 #17
The UK's gonna chill a while and let Ecuador think matters thru struggle4progress Aug 2012 #20
I doubt they would even do that. Swagman Aug 2012 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author struggle4progress Aug 2012 #19
Anonymous have made a statement: Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #21
I think Assange is a sexual predator & and charlatan But the UK is being absurd with the threats... CabCurious Aug 2012 #23
you give a whole new meaning to 'sexual predator' that should frighten every young man. Swagman Aug 2012 #31
Agreed. Just really sad. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #32
Well.. sendero Aug 2012 #33
Yes. This isn't about any charges or even about Assange himself. This is about showing us what Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #34
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