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27. Karl Rove's involvement with Sweden's investigation of the Assange case puts

Thu Aug 16, 2012, 02:45 PM

Aug 2012

a giant red flag over any of the so-called allegations against Assange. How can anyone take these personal attack seriously after it is revealed they are motivated by Karl Rove's strategy?

http://markcrispinmiller.com/2011/02/karl-rove-swedish-connections-and-the-case-against-assange-andrew-kreig/

Has Karl Rove ever done anything that wasn't vicious criminal and dishonest, designed to destroy liberals rather than dialogue with them? No.

And there are many other prob;lems and anaomalies with the "case" against Assange

http://markcrispinmiller.com/2011/02/eight-big-problems-with-the-case-against-assange-must-read-by-naomi-wolf/

Stop with the disingenuous outrage about "rape". Last I heard rape was never consensual. Which has been the allegation from day 1. Consensual rape. Please.

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This Assange business definitely uncovers certain peoples' priorities [View all] Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 OP

Or, Sir, People May Simply have Kept themselves Informed, and Drawn Conclusions You Do Not Like The Magistrate Aug 2012 #1

So much for erring on the side of the alleged rape victim Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #3

Your Problem, Sir, Remains: You Claim People Are Not Examining Evidence And Drawing Conclusions The Magistrate Aug 2012 #7

The fact that they are drawing conclusions based on politics is wrong. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #26

Again, Sir: They Are Drawing Conclusions You Do Not Like, Which Does Not Make them Wrong The Magistrate Aug 2012 #48

As I said below, "sir," I give in. Anyone as great as Assange Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #50

There Are More Dignified ways, Sir, To Own Up To Having lost The Point The Magistrate Aug 2012 #55

I haven't lost any point. You've obscured it. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #59

Try Again Any Time, Sweet-Heart.... The Magistrate Aug 2012 #64

Argument lost Aerows Aug 2012 #136

You've been pwned and smacked down hifiguy Aug 2012 #166

Hear, Hear. nt tsuki Aug 2012 #144

i really hate how the establishment pushes a right-leaning agenda under the cover of women's/ HiPointDem Aug 2012 #11

Like humanitarian war, it's another failed, transparent attempt to reclaim the moral high ground leveymg Aug 2012 #54

"make well-intended people allies" = the most disgusting aspect. including the corollary, painting HiPointDem Aug 2012 #56

There's a smarmy quality to this charade. Smug, self-satisfied, Puritanical yet sleazy leveymg Aug 2012 #70

"puritanical yet sleazy" = yes. but the puritanism is fake, only the political sleaziness is real. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #75

I disagree that people like Dreamer Tatum are "well intentioned" kenny blankenship Aug 2012 #77

A 'Dollar General Lavrenti Beria' Octafish Aug 2012 #169

+1000000000. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #58

Well said, good sir. hifiguy Aug 2012 #20

Way to go. Good answer. n/t 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #76

Bingo. (nt) DirkGently Aug 2012 #149

I agree with Dreamer Tatum... liberallibral Aug 2012 #2

So you think a broken condom during consensual sex is rape? Lionessa Aug 2012 #138

US nationals taking refuge in the Embassy Downwinder Aug 2012 #4

He can hide under a pile of my dirty drawers if he wants. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #5

"filthy fucking rapist" careful...your bias is showing... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #9

Gosh, sorry: he might be a FINE, UPSTANDING rapist. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #29

and he might not be any kind of rapist 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #94

stipulated nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #100

Or he might not be a rapist at all...especially when you consider Sweden's sweeping definition... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #125

gosh he's a "filthy fucking rapist" but he hasn't even been charged. yes, some people's HiPointDem Aug 2012 #12

I didn't say he was. I said he might be. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #28

and you just "might" have an "agenda" yourself frylock Aug 2012 #65

gots to say that it kind of sounds like you 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #90

Dreamer Tatum is a staunch feminst, like, all the time! Quantess Aug 2012 #104

would not have guessed it by the way 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #114

All I will say is, Quantess Aug 2012 #122

I agree the rape accusation is 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #127

You might be also? Neither of you have been charged. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #105

This one makes no sense treestar Aug 2012 #91

right, that's the ticket. it's really amusing to see all you folks twist yourselves up trying to HiPointDem Aug 2012 #101

Absolutely right. randome Aug 2012 #103

Yep treestar Aug 2012 #152

Well, you've certainly proven your point... Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #15

Well, we now where you stand on due process hifiguy Aug 2012 #21

Due process is waiting for him. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #32

Sorry your attempts to smear Assange are failing so badly. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #40

Chuckle. Yeah, I'm *trying* to smear Assange. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #43

I haven't seen anyone saying anything nearly like that at all 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #97

When all you've got is ridiculous strawmen, you've lost the argument entirely. EOTE Aug 2012 #119

That's really going too far..how do you know he is movonne Aug 2012 #41

I didn't say he was. I said he might be. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #44

you might be one yourself.. frylock Aug 2012 #67

If I'm accused, I'd stand trial. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #71

none of the women involved has accused him.. frylock Aug 2012 #79

I think the problem is 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #80

I imagine your own biases are much more righteous t LanternWaste Aug 2012 #85

and some will call you a filthy fucking rapist 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #86

exactly! 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #99

Wow you should have been in the Olympics with leaps of logic like that... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #6

I love to see the list of individuals who have had international arrest warrants morningfog Aug 2012 #8

Someone In the Libyan Embassy, Years Ago, Sir, Shot From the Building And Killed A Police Officer The Magistrate Aug 2012 #13

Anna Ardin denied that she was raped and is against Assange being charged. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #10

She did not deny it. She said she didn't want him charged with rape. randome Aug 2012 #33

shit is getting unhinged xchrom Aug 2012 #14

Or, alternatively, "tweaking the US MIC" makes him guilty of rape until proven innocent. Marr Aug 2012 #16

No you can't - that is not our legal standard and probably not Sweden's treestar Aug 2012 #98

That's right, he's guilty until proven innocent! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #17

you might care about the rape accusations Enrique Aug 2012 #18

I don't agree with everything you say, but... vaberella Aug 2012 #19

We all have biases, it's true. randome Aug 2012 #23

Except the women themselves aren't calling it "rape", nor did they want to press charges riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #34

Then let him go to Sweden treestar Aug 2012 #92

Sweden just has to agree to NOT extradite Assange to the US riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #109

Still, why demand that concession? treestar Aug 2012 #151

Why not? riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #155

didn't the rape victim admit to lying? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #106

Yes it does reveal some people's priorities... ljm2002 Aug 2012 #22

I don't know if he's guilty. I do want him to be tried, however. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #24

Shouldn't he be charged first? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #39

Silencing whistleblowers is our government's priority in this case. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #25

My Point Proven, Part I. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #36

Actually, that seems to be the exact opposite of your point. NT EOTE Aug 2012 #128

Karl Rove's involvement with Sweden's investigation of the Assange case puts librechik Aug 2012 #27

^^THIS^^ panader0 Aug 2012 #38

+1 hifiguy Aug 2012 #42

This case is about "rape" just like Clinton's impeachment was about "perjury" riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #30

My Point Proven, Part II. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #35

Except the women themselves aren't calling it "rape", nor did they want to press charges riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #37

I give up. The sheer awe of his towering heroism has overtaken me Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #47

No answer. Thanks for proving MY point nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #53

parts I, II, III, and Epilogue.. frylock Aug 2012 #68

who is pursing the case since the women involved aren't? HiPointDem Aug 2012 #61

Here are the actual charges as provided by misanthrope. randome Aug 2012 #51

You know continuously re-publishing these allegations may ramp up your post count riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #57

Sweden wants him to take a DNA test. randome Aug 2012 #66

You've been answered ad nauseum. Feel free to check out any of the dozens of replies to your posts riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #72

Really, you're in his head? You spoke to him personally? Hissyspit Aug 2012 #74

Those aren't charges, they are accusations. Hissyspit Aug 2012 #60

Then why is he afraid to submit to a DNA test?z randome Aug 2012 #108

Who says he is? Simply because he won't return to Sweden? NT EOTE Aug 2012 #130

I'm absolutely certain that Assange's lawyers have offered him to take the test in the UK riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #157

You're absolutely right. EOTE Aug 2012 #161

dream on, dear Dreamer 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #113

Why doesn't that apply to Herman Cain, then? treestar Aug 2012 #93

Sweden as a state actor is going after Assange riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #117

DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #31

Oh please, give me a break! ananda Aug 2012 #45

B.S. n/t DeSwiss Aug 2012 #46

You're putting the cart before the horse - the tweak of the US MIC likely led to the allegation. leveymg Aug 2012 #49

Crap. Hogwash. Bunkum. Garbage. LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #52

Brava! hifiguy Aug 2012 #63

I am not a fan of Assange but you have to be somewhat gullible to believe that these charges grantcart Aug 2012 #62

Exactly, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2012 #69

That's what Republicans said about the Herman Cain accusations. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #73

the difference being that is was the WOMEN making those accusations against cain.. frylock Aug 2012 #82

One of the women said she didn't MEAN for him to be charged. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #83

why would he need to submit his DNA? frylock Aug 2012 #107

No, it doesn't. randome Aug 2012 #111

I think they may be saying that women who are raped 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #121

i took your ass off of ignore to respond to your baseless bullshit.. frylock Aug 2012 #126

Assange is wanted for questioning. randome Aug 2012 #84

so fucking question him.. frylock Aug 2012 #129

The accusers in the Cain allegations had made official complaints and received a settlement grantcart Aug 2012 #87

Context is everything. Old and In the Way Aug 2012 #95

Are you going for a gold medal in obtusity? EOTE Aug 2012 #133

so are you mad that Herman Cain was treated worse than Assange? datasuspect Aug 2012 #165

What's the point though treestar Aug 2012 #96

He has been very careful and it is unlikely that he broke any serious laws or they would grantcart Aug 2012 #132

Oh it most certainly does. villager Aug 2012 #78

I imagine many people can observe the leaks as one thing, an allegation of rape as a wholly separate LanternWaste Aug 2012 #81

"Certain Peoples Priorities"? Bragi Aug 2012 #88

We don't even know that what he did was so heroic, either treestar Aug 2012 #89

And I have yet to hear anyone describe the damage Assange did. randome Aug 2012 #102

"damage" is treestar and your word, not anyone else's. Hissyspit Aug 2012 #123

How can someone violate our statutes and be supposedly not have to be prosecuted? treestar Aug 2012 #148

Wikileaks is great! randome Aug 2012 #150

True, he just dumped a bunch of stuff treestar Aug 2012 #147

Nice straw man/mischaracterization. Hissyspit Aug 2012 #120

I don't think anyone is happy with anyone for damaging our Country 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #124

It's such a scattershot approach treestar Aug 2012 #146

maybe you haven't been noticing the coup in America 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #154

The sound of heads popping is such a beautiful thing! Puglover Aug 2012 #110

The UK government is doing the right thing. lightcameron Aug 2012 #112

Nonsense. Hissyspit Aug 2012 #115

He'll be living in that embassy forever. lightcameron Aug 2012 #118

The fuck it is... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #131

They're abusing their privilege, so they've forfeited sovereignty. lightcameron Aug 2012 #145

exactly are they "abusing the privilege?" Hissyspit Aug 2012 #153

Asylum? For RAPE accusations? Please. lightcameron Aug 2012 #156

Storming an embassy over rape accusations?? Please. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #158

You do know what you did there, right? lightcameron Aug 2012 #163

Yeah, I thought you didn't have anything. Hissyspit Aug 2012 #159

You Know, Ma'am, Some People Just Come here for the Pizza.... The Magistrate Aug 2012 #160

Hold the peppers, might give him more gas nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #168

No substantive response. Figures. lightcameron Aug 2012 #162

Yeah... Hissyspit Aug 2012 #170

Bollocks...says who? The UK? Don't make me larf... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #164

Read the Geneva Convention nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #167

whatever happened to the UNREC button...? mike_c Aug 2012 #116

I don't know, I like these OPs which provide an opportunity to present FACTS and then sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #137

Would the UK threaten to attack an embassy over *any* other rape suspect? Posteritatis Aug 2012 #134

So he's been charged with Rape? When did this happen exactly? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #135

Most people understand this isn't about rape ArcticFox Aug 2012 #139

Unrec...anyone who is following this should have grave suspicions joeybee12 Aug 2012 #140

This is yet another issue where I'm torn gollygee Aug 2012 #141

Part of why I know this isn't about rape for the governments involved gollygee Aug 2012 #142

Anyone that buys this farce is dedicated to such. The unusual and without precedent TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #143

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