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In reply to the discussion: Before I forget, no candidate with a D can run without releasing 8 years tax returns. [View all]Gothmog
(181,816 posts)99. Politics How States Could Force Trump to Release His Tax Returns
I volunteer a great deal of time on voter protection issues and have been in war rooms the last five or so elections. Prof. Hasen has a good blog on election law and he believes that these laws are constitutional. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/donald-trump-tax-returns-release-214950
The answer lies in another part of Article IIthe part that received some important attention in Bush v. Gore, the Supreme Court decision that Democrats love to hate. Famously, the 2000 case between Republican nominee George W. Bush and Democratic nominee Al Gore effectively handed the election to Bush when it ended the Florida recount.
Article II provides that the state legislature may direct the manner for choosing presidential electors. In Bush v. Gore, the Court stated that this Article II power given to state legislatures was plenary, meaning that the states have a broad power when it comes to presidential elections. Indeed, the Court wrote that even though state legislators have given each states voters the right to vote for presidential electors, at any time a state legislature can take back the power to appoint electors. In other words, if the California or Texas state legislature wanted to directly choose the states presidential electors in 2020, the state could do so. As Dean Vik Amar notes, the Constitution does not necessarily include a right of Americans to vote for president at all (and American citizens in U.S. territories do not have this right).
The logic then goes like this: If a state legislature can take back from the voters the right to vote at all for president, it may be able to use ballot-access laws to limit the candidate choices presented to voters. And doing so would not impinge on the Qualifications Clause in Article II because Congress ultimately counts the Electoral College votes and can police that Clause. If a state legislature, for example, chose electors supporting a candidate under the age of 35, the U.S. House of Representatives, which counts the Electoral College votes, could disregard those votes after deeming the underage candidate unqualified.
Prof. Hasen has some concerns about the wisdom of these laws and possible GOP retaliation if blue states adopt these laws. I also believe that these laws are valid
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Before I forget, no candidate with a D can run without releasing 8 years tax returns. [View all]
Eliot Rosewater
Nov 2018
OP
"Be the change you want to see". Regardless of what Republicans do, I want to see tax returns.
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2018
#2
It would be great if both parties "adopted transparency", however, I'm not a Republican and have...
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2018
#49
It's not wasted, because we get to choose who we want to represent us on the world stage, and not...
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2018
#70
I understand that. If the candidate who wins the nomination of your parties primary refuses to
Autumn
Nov 2018
#156
What I said is... if you want to make it a rule for one party it's better to make it a law that
Autumn
Nov 2018
#158
I think it's a very reasonable request and should be a law, not a rule. Republicans will
Autumn
Nov 2018
#22
Love your responses and reasoning. I didnt anticipate any opposition to my idea.
Eliot Rosewater
Nov 2018
#38
If the OP lives in any number of states that allow ballot initiatives s/he would have the power.
xmas74
Nov 2018
#67
That would work as long as it's for both parties and IMO only the higher offices.
Autumn
Nov 2018
#71
They could , doesn't mean they will. I think that's pretty low on the priority list.
Autumn
Nov 2018
#168
That's exactly it, and you can't make one party do it when the other doesn't have to.
Autumn
Nov 2018
#23
For people who believe Sanders has no chance at getting the nomination there sure are
realmirage
Nov 2018
#25
"Lulz"? You don't see that expression used alot these days, especially here.
lapucelle
Nov 2018
#108
DONT tell me who my friends are, do NOT. You have no CLUE who I am and who my friends are.
Eliot Rosewater
Nov 2018
#32
You mean the party itself has this, or do you mean a bill in the House?
Eliot Rosewater
Nov 2018
#92
In Maryland and other states with ballot access laws, you cannot get onto the ballot
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#160
I don't understand why there is such resistance to requiring candidates to release tax returns...
George II
Nov 2018
#136
The Democratic Party can institute a rule requiring a release of tax returns...
George II
Nov 2018
#113
The individual state Democratic Parties make their rules. That's why some states have primaries...
George II
Nov 2018
#122
The DNC isn't stupid enough to adopt such a rule. What a rule like this is essentially saying is -
Midwestern Democrat
Nov 2018
#126
Did he say specifically why it violated the Constitution? Was it the US Constitution or California's
George II
Nov 2018
#112
There are two things involved, State laws and Party rules. Have those states...
George II
Nov 2018
#88
Make a clean break from the "Rules are for sissies" stance of the present administration
ProudLib72
Nov 2018
#62