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Caliman73

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30. No doubt. The point is that legislation can have unintended consequences.

Reply to still_one (Reply #28)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:52 PM

Nov 2018

Although with Howard Jarvis Taxpayers, the consequence is always to deprive the State tax revenue for social services.

Prop 13, had it been written only for Seniors for residential properties, would have been great legislation. Instead, they included commercial property AND they put in the 2/3 majority rule.

There doesn't appear to be a need at this time to repeal 13 as Dems have basically cornered power in California to move on a progressive agenda.

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'A Staggeringly Bad Idea': Outrage as Pelosi Pushes Tax Rule ..... [View all] guillaumeb Nov 2018 OP

Didn't Moveon endorse Pelosi? dem4decades Nov 2018 #1

They can endorse, then disagree with a specific policy. Caliman73 Nov 2018 #11

Dumbest idea I ever heard of manor321 Nov 2018 #2

Both sides are not the same. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #3

True. Only one side could get away with this shanny Nov 2018 #26

Seems like one could carve out exemptions for healthcare and other related taxes (nt) mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #4

Agreed. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #8

This fixes a bad GOP law. "The GOP rule requires a 3/5 supermajority Hortensis Nov 2018 #21

thank you for cutting through the noise Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #22

And that modifies this story. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #23

+100. That's reportedly a reason we're not going Hortensis Nov 2018 #24

If it is acceptable, I will paste your reply into the body of my post. eom guillaumeb Nov 2018 #25

Sure. Hortensis Nov 2018 #27

Maybe I'm in the worng here but it sounds to me like she wants to prevent simple majority bullshit Afromania Nov 2018 #5

A fixation on tax rates could prevent any progressive Bills being passed. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #9

Ah, k. In my haste I managed to skim too quickly and lost the tax bit. Afromania Nov 2018 #19

Wait, this is calling for lower taxes on low income people for better healthcare? brush Nov 2018 #6

Countries with single payer pay for it with payroll taxes. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #7

Ok, sound like it needs some tinkering. brush Nov 2018 #10

And why not outline the basics of a New Deal for the 21st Century? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #13

Needs serious study from other single payer system around the world... brush Nov 2018 #15

And no need for Democrats to paint themselves into a corner either. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #18

Same way that Prop 13 crippled social services in California Caliman73 Nov 2018 #16

Exactly. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #17

Prop. 13 came at a time when seniors were losing homes due to increasing property taxes. still_one Nov 2018 #28

No doubt. The point is that legislation can have unintended consequences. Caliman73 Nov 2018 #30

Very true still_one Nov 2018 #33

Pfft. I stopped reading when I noticed the article was from commondreams. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2018 #12

OK. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #14

The RW Conservative Washington Examiner also reported it. ! Bfd Nov 2018 #20

I agree. The timing is too much of a coincidene. I want confirmation from Pelosi directly herself still_one Nov 2018 #29

here KayF Nov 2018 #37

Ah, Silly Season Is Here! DarthDem Nov 2018 #31

And Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. eom guillaumeb Nov 2018 #32

kicking nt Hotler Nov 2018 #34

The tax cap in NY state is a failure: Cuomo just throws discretionary $$ to the schools so they don' lindysalsagal Nov 2018 #35

And the idea that taxes are bad is a Libertarian lie. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #36