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Berlin Expat

(951 posts)
40. Yeah, we're getting close
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:17 AM
Nov 2018

to Hitlerian levels of delusion on Trump's part.

Hitler expected that SS General Felix Steiner would be able to launch a counterattack against the Red Army after the Red Army won the Battle of the Seelow Heights and advanced into Berlin itself.

Hitler built up a fantasy counterattack, in which the Red Army would be easily repelled and the day would be saved. However, Steiner was unable to do this and in some fairness to him, he properly assessed the situation and reported it to a Wehrmacht General, who in turn, reported that to Hans Krebs of the OKH.

Wikipedia sums it up better:

Hitler ordered Steiner to attack the northern flank of the huge salient created by the 1st Belorussian Front's breakout. Steiner's attack was due to coincide with General Busse's Ninth Army, attacking from the south in a pincer attack. The Ninth Army had been pushed to south of the 1st Belorussian Front's salient. To facilitate this attack, Steiner was assigned the three divisions of the Ninth Army's CI Army Corps: the 4th SS Panzergrenadier Division Polizei, the 5th Jäger Division, and the 25th Panzergrenadier Division. All three divisions were north of the Finow Canal on the Northern flank of Zhukov's salient. Weidling's LVI Panzer Corps, which was still east of Berlin with its northern flank just below Werneuchen, was also ordered to participate in the attack. The three divisions from CI Army Corps planned to attack south from Eberswalde on the Finow Canal towards the LVI Panzer Corps. The three divisions from CI Army Corps were 24 kilometres (about 15 miles) east of Berlin and the attack to the south would cut the 1st Belorussian Front's salient in two. Steiner called Heinrici and informed him that the plan could not be implemented because the 5th Jäger Division and the 25th Panzergrenadier Division were deployed defensively and could not be redeployed until the 2nd Naval Division arrived from the coast to relieve them. This left only two battalions of the 4th SS Panzergrenadier Division available and they had no combat weapons.

Based on Steiner's assessment, Heinrici called Hans Krebs, Chief of Staff of the German General Staff of the Army High Command (Oberkommando des Heeres or OKH), and told him that the plan could not be implemented. Heinrici asked to speak to Hitler, but was told Hitler was too busy to take his call. On 22 April 1945, at his afternoon conference, Hitler became aware that Steiner was not going to attack and he fell into a tearful rage. Hitler declared the war was lost, he blamed the generals and announced that he would stay on in Berlin until the end, then kill himself.


Trump is Hitler in his bunker in April 1945 nuts Botany Nov 2018 #1
I wonder what kind, if any, briefings he gets underpants Nov 2018 #3
Here is Trump drafting some legislation workinclasszero Nov 2018 #6
Those are his written answers to Mueller's questions. NT warmfeet Nov 2018 #7
LOL 😁 workinclasszero Nov 2018 #14
He might as well have used crayons. calimary Nov 2018 #50
Let's not even go there how he colors our Flag.. Cha Nov 2018 #41
The thing about Hitler was, he never listened to his generals unless they agreed with him FakeNoose Nov 2018 #8
Hitler also ruled by chaos, pitting administration heads against each other, internal discord mastermind Nov 2018 #17
No problem. Marcuse Nov 2018 #26
Love it! FakeNoose Nov 2018 #29
Me too, another K&R Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #34
Great analyses iluvtennis Nov 2018 #11
Trump does not even know enough to know the firemen were raking leaves to create a firebreak. True Blue American Nov 2018 #12
Trump has never been acquainted with raking leaves. Texin Nov 2018 #20
I just kind of herd what he said and he was criticizing the fire fighters and I just knew .... Botany Nov 2018 #35
What a great point! True Blue American Nov 2018 #39
Maybe the Butcher Prince can protect him Loge23 Nov 2018 #23
Time for another "Downfall" parody video Fritz Walter Nov 2018 #24
Uh-oh... klook Nov 2018 #37
Found it! Fritz Walter Nov 2018 #44
Great! klook Nov 2018 #52
Yeah, we're getting close Berlin Expat Nov 2018 #40
Unfair comparison Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #45
Frank Rich is a two faced hack. He helped Bush win with his lies. Screw him and his horse. olegramps Nov 2018 #51
"Starting" to panic? GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #2
I made a set of smileys for that. marylandblue Nov 2018 #5
Trump is delusional by nature. dubyadiprecession Nov 2018 #4
K&R Scurrilous Nov 2018 #9
Some people's opinions are more valuable than others' & RICH's are the former. UTUSN Nov 2018 #10
Rich spent most of the 2000 election Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #46
DEfuggingLISH malaise Nov 2018 #13
He got the trifecta plus. shraby Nov 2018 #16
Yep malaise Nov 2018 #18
I think Trump has had it. The only questions are when and how. Jarqui Nov 2018 #15
Thanks for posting this- Schumer's role in amplifying Facebook's Russian influence should be known. NBachers Nov 2018 #30
I have mixed feeling about posting it because I was not aware of it Jarqui Nov 2018 #31
There is one thing to consider here DFW Nov 2018 #43
Before he's stopped , I yhink he'll start a push to duforsure Nov 2018 #19
Look for more rallies NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #21
Great read. Learned a lot. Thanks for posting. alwaysinasnit Nov 2018 #22
He has been in panic mode since he was sworn in as I suspect he thought when this all started cstanleytech Nov 2018 #25
Oh, Sweet Baby Jesus I LOVE THIS ARTICLE ... 1,000,000,000,000 RECS ... Rich is just AMAZING (nt) mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #27
None of this behavior is new unblock Nov 2018 #28
Turn out the lights. The party's over. vlyons Nov 2018 #32
The diaper is loaded and leaking Blue Owl Nov 2018 #33
Right! Who's in charge of diaper Cha Nov 2018 #42
The Pouting in Paris Quemado Nov 2018 #36
Well...this is good in some very real ways. PatrickforO Nov 2018 #38
From Frank Rich's pen to God's ear. usaf-vet Nov 2018 #47
"a cocoon of bitterness and resentment," ?? Wait until January. marble falls Nov 2018 #48
K&R... spanone Nov 2018 #49
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