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louis c

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50. You don't have to win my vote. You already have it

Mon Nov 19, 2018, 05:46 PM

Nov 2018

But, look at the math. We need Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan. Biden gives us the best chance because he can take 5% of the Trump vote from him. Biden's age does not hurt us in the 2 oldest states in America: Florida and Arizona.

I don't need a candidate who helps us win New York and California by 45 points instead of 35, but lose the mid-west states by 1%. This is not about what makes you feel good. It's about winning. I didn't invent the electoral college, but we Democrats better figure out to make it work in our favor.

We may not nominate the strongest candidate if we vote with our hearts. We better vote with our heads or we will lose.

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My Case for a Joe Biden-Kamala Harris Ticket [View all] louis c Nov 2018 OP

Can't we find someone older? BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #1

... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #2

EXTREME GRAPHIC WARNING! don't laugh this is serious, especially the link... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #72

Winning is the most important thing louis c Nov 2018 #3

You're not wrong BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #6

White maleness more than age is at play here EffieBlack Nov 2018 #29

And Party BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #33

Biden will WIN, nothing is more important...He will win. Stuart G Nov 2018 #26

Winning is the ONLY thing that matters at this point. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #51

+1 treestar Nov 2018 #53

exactly! agingdem Nov 2018 #4

Rep. Ted Lieu was born in Taipei, Taiwan. A great future as Sen. from oasis Nov 2018 #7

agreed... agingdem Nov 2018 #11

he is my Rep, so would love to see him as Speaker someday (NOT NOW, lol) Celerity Nov 2018 #15

How about Beto-Kamala or Sherrod-Kamala? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #9

Beto needs a little more seasoning (I live in his district) agingdem Nov 2018 #12

Hogwash Bucky Nov 2018 #71

not hogwash... agingdem Nov 2018 #76

Come into the convention and blow everyone? Bucky Nov 2018 #77

so much for auto-correct agingdem Nov 2018 #78

did you read the whole comment? agingdem Nov 2018 #80

Yes I did. And then I made a joke. Bucky Nov 2018 #82

Are you suggesting Harris be second on a ticket with Beto? MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #19

Beto's greatest talent is he's a great campaigner. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #20

If Brown had a D Gov. I would be very tempted BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #24

Sherrod./Harris, yes. Beto, no. octoberlib Nov 2018 #25

Sherrod has no star power or it factor. Too boring. Pisces Nov 2018 #27

I like Sherrod-Kamala. Sounds like a winner to me! skylucy Nov 2018 #28

Seriously? EffieBlack Nov 2018 #31

Beto is NOT RUNNING! Forget it. He has said so. Plus he's not ready. Sherrod is saying no too, LBM20 Nov 2018 #46

Sherrod was on one of the Sunday shows and he didn't look like he was running for president. Renew Deal Nov 2018 #93

Yes we can louis c Nov 2018 #23

His age is actually a good thing treestar Nov 2018 #59

You are right! at140 Nov 2018 #65

MONDALE-FERRARO 2020 Bucky Nov 2018 #70

A little soon? Lets get ready for what's really important in 2020 - the Senate and any Red ... marble falls Nov 2018 #5

I like it. Mosby Nov 2018 #8

If Republicans are smart (big if) cannabis_flower Nov 2018 #10

I doubt they've got the guts or backbone NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #18

Republicans are cowering in fear with that 85% approval at140 Nov 2018 #56

Biden ran twice Bradshaw3 Nov 2018 #13

Good point Louis1895 Nov 2018 #16

I agree on Harris as an AG Bradshaw3 Nov 2018 #22

But then he was veep treestar Nov 2018 #54

Not really Bradshaw3 Nov 2018 #81

But then he had 8 years treestar Nov 2018 #88

Takes more than that to win the presidency Bradshaw3 Nov 2018 #98

I hate that you're right Bucky Nov 2018 #79

I like this ticket Gothmog Nov 2018 #14

How about, we wait a few months to see who decides to run and how they work out? brooklynite Nov 2018 #17

Kamala Harris yes, Biden no Celerity Nov 2018 #21

Don't worry about the end of his second term louis c Nov 2018 #35

Not just the end if his second term. He is too old in 2020. Celerity Nov 2018 #36

He's one year younger than Bernie louis c Nov 2018 #37

as stated, Bernie is also a candidate I do not support Celerity Nov 2018 #38

I'd rather win with Biden than lose with Kamala louis c Nov 2018 #40

I disagree, I think Kamala expands the voting base for her more than Biden Celerity Nov 2018 #41

Oh, ya... louis c Nov 2018 #42

Kamala will pull a lot more of the youth vote than Biden. I am of the opinion that Celerity Nov 2018 #44

If the youth vote sits out the election with Biden at the top louis c Nov 2018 #48

Biden is certainly trying his best to alienate younger voters when he puts out things like this Celerity Nov 2018 #55

Sorry, I agree with Biden. louis c Nov 2018 #57

I wish you well Celerity Nov 2018 #60

don't vote louis c Nov 2018 #62

Biden will get many moderate republucans at140 Nov 2018 #64

Biden will not do as well with younger voters and minorities Celerity Nov 2018 #66

Young voters and minorities are supposed to vote for Democrats... louis c Nov 2018 #83

You have bad issues with us young folk. Celerity Nov 2018 #84

Lets ignore progressives and minorities JonLP24 Nov 2018 #87

Didn't we run this play in 2016? sacto95834 Nov 2018 #67

Theoretically you are correct, but there is a problem at140 Nov 2018 #75

I'm exactly with your way of thinking. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #61

America is too racist. We need an old white dude, and biden fits the bill dsp3000 Nov 2018 #99

We like Kamala treestar Nov 2018 #58

A Harris/Beto or Harris/Brown ticket will win more minority Celerity Nov 2018 #63

If we need to convince minority and youth voters to vote against Trump... louis c Nov 2018 #104

You have already tried this route with me on another post. I am not buying it. Celerity Nov 2018 #105

Great Right Wing Talking Points louis c Nov 2018 #106

Lololol One's own actions and words are now RW talking points? Celerity Nov 2018 #107

Any time a DUer tries to denegrate ANY possible Democratic nominee, that person... louis c Nov 2018 #108

I am talking specific policy points where I disagree with him. Celerity Nov 2018 #109

Sorry, but we're no where near the point of not being able to discuss weaknesses aikoaiko Nov 2018 #111

Why do we have these rules at DU then? louis c Nov 2018 #112

You're missing the core principles of DU aikoaiko Nov 2018 #113

I don't consider your criticism constructive... louis c Nov 2018 #114

Those weren't my links and I did find them constructive. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #115

I repecfully disagree. louis c Nov 2018 #116

I would support Joe if he ran Gothmog Nov 2018 #30

I agree that Biden at the top of the ticket is our very best option electorally... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #32

Would be happy with a wide open primary and the top 2 as the ticket bigbrother05 Nov 2018 #34

You don't have to win my vote. You already have it louis c Nov 2018 #50

Obama, Clinton, and Kennedy were all in their 40s. Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #39

Mondale was a kid and lost louis c Nov 2018 #43

Mondale was in his mid 50s Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #45

Ya, like I said, a kid louis c Nov 2018 #47

Sounds like a winning ticket Rizen Nov 2018 #49

I think I agree treestar Nov 2018 #52

Biden pushed laws that now prevent people from getting out from under pnwmom Nov 2018 #68

+1 Celerity Nov 2018 #69

I love Biden. I worship the ground he walks on. Don't nominate him. Bucky Nov 2018 #73

I'm not worried about Democratic votes. We need some independent, blue collar Mid-Western votes louis c Nov 2018 #74

Biden is not blue collar or working class friendly JonLP24 Nov 2018 #86

Let me just let you know that Trump will face a Democratic opponent in 2020 louis c Nov 2018 #89

I'm explaining how his positions don't make him blue collar friendly JonLP24 Nov 2018 #91

He's not Hillary louis c Nov 2018 #92

It looks like Obama had the lead most of the time JonLP24 Nov 2018 #94

Thanks for confirming my info louis c Nov 2018 #96

Obama lead all the way as early June JonLP24 Nov 2018 #97

That window was the only point I was making louis c Nov 2018 #103

Beto should run against Cornhole in 2020. Sneederbunk Nov 2018 #85

Beto for President - Petition ****please read ******************************************* iDOcareDoyou Nov 2018 #90

I still don't get the desire to have Harris on a presidential ticket. Apparently many on du SweetieD Nov 2018 #95

I haven't heard of those views at least not at DU JonLP24 Nov 2018 #100

She also went to a HBCU and Obama didn't... BluegrassDem Nov 2018 #110

Biden won't get any media coverage AlexSFCA Nov 2018 #101

Agree. I think this is a strong potential ticket for all the reasons you posit elfin Nov 2018 #102