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Small-Axe

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127. We'll see. Joe Biden looks quite fit to me.

Mon Nov 19, 2018, 06:00 PM

Nov 2018

And I don't see anyone better positioned to unseat Trump.

It is true the government will need to be rebuilt, so now isn't time for a rookie IMO.

Teamed with a VP who is qualified to be president now (like Booker or Harris) we have a winning team in 2020.

We have an Electoral College challenge. Any major Democrat could win the popular vote. Sadly that doesn't win the office.

We need to be strategic in my estimation.

I'm open to another candidate rising, but Biden looks like the made-to-order foil to Donald J Trump.

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'He's Barack Obama, but white': Beto O'Rourke blows up the 2020 Democratic primary [View all] DonViejo Nov 2018 OP

... LexVegas Nov 2018 #1

Still in jcgoldie Nov 2018 #2

I am not from TX. How could he bring out more of the Hispanic vote? lunasun Nov 2018 #28

I think it's a combination of good policy (more socioecomics, less bigotry) and personality politics sandensea Nov 2018 #64

Because he was born in El Paso, and... MicaelS Nov 2018 #105

I also haven't seen the specific stats on turnout jcgoldie Nov 2018 #116

He and his wife are fully bilingual TexasBushwhacker Nov 2018 #137

I think he did improve Democrats performance among Hispanic voters compared to 6 years ago Bucky Nov 2018 #146

That's the beauty of Beto. I see him as someone who can reinvigorate the Obama coalition. Kahuna7 Nov 2018 #94

Please run Beto! ananda Nov 2018 #3

I think Kamala Harris/Beto is a superb ticket Celerity Nov 2018 #4

IMO they would be an unbeatable ticket. True_Blue Nov 2018 #19

Nope LakeArenal Nov 2018 #46

Well not argued Bucky Nov 2018 #147

I agree. Unbeatable. Awesome in the contradiction of each other. I think it is perfect. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #115

He must be clean because if there was any sort of dirt on him, LuvNewcastle Nov 2018 #5

What Cruz brought up in the race NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #12

If that's all they could dig up against him, LuvNewcastle Nov 2018 #30

He didn't leave the scene. Eric J in MN Nov 2018 #59

This is one Texan that would be on board with that. DFW Nov 2018 #6

This time in 2006? karynnj Nov 2018 #72

Agreed, the 2004 speech gave him a huge boost DFW Nov 2018 #89

Beto reminds me of all the Kennedy Bros, but RFK the most. nt Kahuna7 Nov 2018 #99

Similar hair, but far more outgoing. DFW Nov 2018 #119

I really wasn't talking about appearance, but oookay. I was Kahuna7 Nov 2018 #123

i want my prez candidate to be battle tested... samnsara Nov 2018 #7

You'll start seeing them in February 2020 if he runs BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #87

Austin American-Statesman: Why Beto O'Rourke may be headed toward run for president dalton99a Nov 2018 #8

BTW the article title is a bit cringe-worthy but... jcgoldie Nov 2018 #9

Yeah, I don't like the title either Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #25

Nope. ismnotwasm Nov 2018 #10

I'm game! In It to Win It Nov 2018 #11

If Kamala Harris runs, are we going to say "She's like Barack Obama, only a woman"? NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #13

Not at all. In It to Win It Nov 2018 #16

It seems to me that they are making reference to Beto's charisma jcgoldie Nov 2018 #17

They are Horse with no Name Nov 2018 #70

Agree. His race has nothing to do with the comparison. nt Kahuna7 Nov 2018 #100

Then why refer to his race at all? EffieBlack Nov 2018 #141

+ It is all very cringey lunasun Nov 2018 #20

it makes me cringe as well NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #22

I mean duh... jcgoldie Nov 2018 #23

No one is the next anyone.. LakeArenal Nov 2018 #49

She reminds me more of Bobby Kennedy Bucky Nov 2018 #148

No, because it's not true Renew Deal Nov 2018 #152

"If 2+24, are we going to say everything equals four?" LanternWaste Nov 2018 #163

Run Beto Run crazycatlady Nov 2018 #14

+1 jcgoldie Nov 2018 #21

Looks like you put some thought into it unlike a few intellectually lazy folks here BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #104

He's really not, 'Barack Obama but white." violetpastille Nov 2018 #15

+1000. Kind of Blue Nov 2018 #43

Oh, that's just a thing people say Bucky Nov 2018 #149

Your reply is suitable for framing or gift giving. violetpastille Nov 2018 #157

More subtle racism from the Republican-supporting Politico. LonePirate Nov 2018 #18

Shame on Politico for using the direct quote of a Democratic bundler in the story's headline! DonViejo Nov 2018 #34

I'd like to see a more nuanced approach to 2nd Amendment issues appal_jack Nov 2018 #24

Good post but I'm glad he supports the assault weapons ban jcgoldie Nov 2018 #26

I'm here as a pro-RKBA progressive appal_jack Nov 2018 #36

Also, Constitutional principles are, by necessity, broad. appal_jack Nov 2018 #121

So you are saying that what exactly the 2nd amendment protects is a matter of interpretation jcgoldie Nov 2018 #124

I'm saying that Court-interpretations stretch things quite far already. appal_jack Nov 2018 #132

You are obviously a gun enthusiast jcgoldie Nov 2018 #133

I agree with you for a National run, but it wasn't a good move in Texas Polybius Nov 2018 #164

Any talk of gun bans IMO loses us votes that we might get..... USALiberal Nov 2018 #33

Exactly. Thanks! appal_jack Nov 2018 #38

"we cannot collect all the assault rifles out there already." jcgoldie Nov 2018 #41

So door to door collect banned weapons? That will go well. Nt USALiberal Nov 2018 #45

You offer incentives for people to give them up jcgoldie Nov 2018 #48

Ha ha... incentives... LakeArenal Nov 2018 #53

We are talking about assault rifles jcgoldie Nov 2018 #54

No one is going to collect assault rifles either. LakeArenal Nov 2018 #58

Murder is banned now, so that seems to be working..... USALiberal Nov 2018 #50

Lol jcgoldie Nov 2018 #51

So why do other countries that actually have guns not have our level of mass shooting? Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #67

Bingo Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #44

Why does it lose us votes? marlakay Nov 2018 #136

Not according to polls...in fact a number of new people with an NRA 'F' won. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #153

cult of personality doesn't do it for me. octoberlib Nov 2018 #27

I think he might lose too. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #32

Brown has zero chance to break out of the field you mentioned. BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #85

Trump had no legislative accomplishments crazycatlady Nov 2018 #42

Trump won. Beto didn't and I'm not convinced octoberlib Nov 2018 #63

Biden/Beto mainstreetonce Nov 2018 #29

My secret wish.... LakeArenal Nov 2018 #56

Joe could excite rallies the was Trump does. mainstreetonce Nov 2018 #117

A huge plus for me... LakeArenal Nov 2018 #122

I don't see how Beto can run because he lost...Pres. Obama was a sitting Senator. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #31

+1 octoberlib Nov 2018 #35

Thank You! Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #37

There are some who compare him to Lincoln (talk about setting up a guy to fail) when he lost to 33taw Nov 2018 #39

I see many in the party looking for a savior as I have said before...there is no such thing. If Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #76

Yes. A thousand times, yes. violetpastille Nov 2018 #80

Thank you! Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #150

Yep. BadgerMom Nov 2018 #57

Disagree.... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #61

I just don't agree. He more than likely will not deliver his home state. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #74

When was the last time we won TX in a presidential race? getagrip_already Nov 2018 #79

if we don't win Texas, it doesn't matter how much better we do. I would pick a candidate for Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #151

lest I remind you..... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #156

He won very narrowly and his elections was a trifecta of unrepeatable shit which should Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #158

that's fine.... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #159

He ran against another NYer, so that's different Polybius Nov 2018 #166

of course it matters...... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #167

It wouldn't be as bad if he runs against, say, Greg Abbott and loses TX Polybius Nov 2018 #168

lets just look at another example getagrip_already Nov 2018 #169

So don't worry about it? BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #86

How long do you think your talking point would last if he won in Iowa or NH? BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #96

I like Beto. He has similarities to Pres. Obama, but I don't like the comparison ecstatic Nov 2018 #40

WEll said. Ne Adrahil Nov 2018 #69

Tell me I am wrong...since no one can prove me wrong... Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #47

Every Democratic presidential nominee Eric J in MN Nov 2018 #62

Playing the percentages that's probably due to change BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #90

the party lines are clear.... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #65

I'm not committing yet for 2020, but: Dale Neiburg Nov 2018 #52

I can hear the screams.... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #55

Excuse me? Big Bernie "bot", though I prefer the term supporter here. Beto is the best Autumn Nov 2018 #73

Agree. Even if he's not 100% as progressive as Bernie, he has great.. mvd Nov 2018 #142

As the keynote speaker in 2004, Obama had more public exposure when he ran in 2008 brooklynite Nov 2018 #60

that's nonesense.... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #66

The average Democratic Primary voter (not in Texas) doesn't frequent political blogs... brooklynite Nov 2018 #109

still not true..... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #113

That is why I had no idea who Barack Obama was when I was in the Army JonLP24 Nov 2018 #134

My goodness Cosmocat Nov 2018 #108

I think he could be the Trump-killer. Adrahil Nov 2018 #68

He's a great guy, but he's not running in 2020. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2018 #71

Can I get the winning numbers for the next powerball drawing? BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #93

This talk is just silly. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #75

+1 dembotoz Nov 2018 #77

I guess we'll find out if he runs won't we? BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #91

Someone who is more battle tested. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #92

I like Joe, but his time has passed..... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #114

Biden isn't boring... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #118

Joe is already 75 years old..... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #125

We'll see. Joe Biden looks quite fit to me. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #127

He just seems tired lately.... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #130

Call For Beto to Run in 2020, Please SIGN THE FOLLOWING PETITION *********************************** iDOcareDoyou Nov 2018 #78

If a candidate has to be "persuaded" or octoberlib Nov 2018 #83

Too soon. Lets get the Congress properly targeted first. How about Beto runs for Cornyn's seat? marble falls Nov 2018 #111

How about he does what he thinks is right for him? BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #120

How about putting the nation first. Just saying. We've got plenty of time to pull hair over POTUS. marble falls Nov 2018 #126

Oh lord BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #128

For me, I'm not certain about anything or anybody yet. If Beto shines in the debates and polls well octoberlib Nov 2018 #160

So you're annoyed by the attention he's getting BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #162

a simple answer is 'NO' Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #154

Biden-Harris LuvLoogie Nov 2018 #81

If Beto wins obnoxiousdrunk Nov 2018 #82

Abso-freakin-lutely! Kahuna7 Nov 2018 #95

He has as good a chance as any andym Nov 2018 #84

This is the only rational response in the entire thread IMO BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #98

So everyone who disagrees with you is irrational? Small-Axe Nov 2018 #112

I was thinking about this very thing this morning. Looking back at the midterms, Vinca Nov 2018 #88

Ignoring Trump is an awesome litmus test that most candidates would fail Awsi Dooger Nov 2018 #97

Beto's showing in the Texas race says it all. He came darn close to ousting Cruz. Vinca Nov 2018 #101

Just get the WH out of the hands of Nazis, I dont care who you do it with. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #102

People are looking for someone who speaks with honestly and passion janterry Nov 2018 #103

Cringeworthy title... But go figure. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2018 #106

It's unclear if he'd take more votes from Biden or Bernie. Eric J in MN Nov 2018 #107

So in other words, he's Bill circa 1992? Blue_Tires Nov 2018 #110

I think he's a lot more liberal than Bill was in 1992... jcgoldie Nov 2018 #129

I want someone who has won a state wide election. Buckeyeblue Nov 2018 #131

Unpopular in the US or unpopular in Texas? JonLP24 Nov 2018 #135

I would prefer that too, but there's a first time for everything TexasBushwhacker Nov 2018 #138

This is going to be one of the ugliest primaries we have ever seen madville Nov 2018 #139

No, he's not EffieBlack Nov 2018 #140

He has already clearly said he isn't running. LBM20 Nov 2018 #143

I'd consider voting for him. musicblind Nov 2018 #144

O'Rourke/Biden bhikkhu Nov 2018 #145

He'll win in a landslide; you don't need to be a genius to see that AlexSFCA Nov 2018 #155

Pass Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #161

He needs to run. This is our guy. gldstwmn Nov 2018 #165