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32. You can blame Ayn Rand

Mon Nov 19, 2018, 07:15 PM

Nov 2018

and her philosophy of the virtue of selfishness. She bamboozled a generation of young idealists in the 1950s and 60s that the gov was evil and stole wealth from the capable capitalists to give free stuff to the moochers of society. She packaged her philosophy that everything should be privatized. You should be able to keep all the fruits of your labor and guiltlessly contribute nothing back to society. She made compassion for the needy to be a major character flaw. By god, no one was going to make her guilty for not contributing to a charity.

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Reading 'Postwar' -- I never realized the depth of damage Margaret Thatcher did. [View all] byronius Nov 2018 OP

She was another vile cretin malaise Nov 2018 #1

All true except for how we frame the argument: DemocracyMouse Nov 2018 #18

Nice post but i think it was more than that malaise Nov 2018 #24

My post was about effective rhetoric. DemocracyMouse Nov 2018 #36

You are 100% correct malaise Nov 2018 #37

OK, we're on a role.... and seem to agree! :-) DemocracyMouse Nov 2018 #54

Let's just make a list of the bad ideas in history that have caused human fatalities. Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #2

Failure to manage the sale of firearms - back when gun control was still possible FakeNoose Nov 2018 #14

I agree with your list but it can be expanded by millions of other examples. erronis Nov 2018 #21

No leader in modern history resorted to accepting blame for bad ideas that Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #25

maggie would love companies like amazon. nt msongs Nov 2018 #3

Like She Loved Raygun Me. Nov 2018 #4

She was Rayguns in a dress workinclasszero Nov 2018 #5

Yes, she did terrible damage. I remember being in a village in the South Wales Valleys where there OnDoutside Nov 2018 #6

+1 Left to rot is right. Thatcher the Slasher, conservative monster woman. appalachiablue Nov 2018 #20

Thanks for this cogent view - libertarianism and neoliberalism erronis Nov 2018 #23

"They were left to rot, like US governments did to people in the Steel & Coal country." SMC22307 Nov 2018 #43

Same shit that Reagan did, but with a lesser economy. nt Gore1FL Nov 2018 #7

"'Conservative economic philosophy' is merely the Divine Right Of Kings for the modern age" rurallib Nov 2018 #8

Too many words for a cons bumper sticker for sure Volaris Nov 2018 #16

Thatcher showed reagan, and later presidents, that if you want to increase your market share mastermind Nov 2018 #9

+1, conservatism is " the Divine Right Of Kings for the modern age. " uponit7771 Nov 2018 #10

This sums up the level of hatred she inspired BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #11

"3 million pounds for Thatcher's funeral?" Scottish comedian Frankie Boyle asked incredulously sandensea Nov 2018 #13

Poster child Thatcher earned it, 'More Suicides In Conservative Rule,' 2002. appalachiablue Nov 2018 #34

I remember the media censorship, particularly as it applied to Ireland. LisaM Nov 2018 #12

She facilitated the rise of Murdoch malaise Nov 2018 #38

She was from the conservative party in the UK. What do you expect? Oh and also YOHABLO Nov 2018 #15

The conservatives in the UK have the same core value as our republicans Johnyawl Nov 2018 #17

A great song about it littlealex Nov 2018 #19

Morrissey: "Thatcher was a terror without an atom of humanity." SMC22307 Nov 2018 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author DemoTex Nov 2018 #22

Love that analogy. And all they both got were lice. erronis Nov 2018 #26

Thatcher and the Tories crushed labor unions under their boots. LudwigPastorius Nov 2018 #27

We lived in England pre-Thatcher (77-78). luvtheGWN Nov 2018 #31

Harold Wilson was PM when I was in Cambrige, summer 1975 and appalachiablue Nov 2018 #48

And to think PM May thinks she's the second goddamn coming of Thatcher. 47of74 Nov 2018 #28

I was just coming of age when she was first elected. Denzil_DC Nov 2018 #29

Anyone here a fan IncaRoads Nov 2018 #30

You can blame Ayn Rand vlyons Nov 2018 #32

Correct, Ayn Rand's influence was major. Shoulda been sent back appalachiablue Nov 2018 #35

Yet she cashed those social security checks by god. octoberlib Nov 2018 #44

She didn't need the money vlyons Nov 2018 #45

Mr. Costello had a few things to day about the Iron Lady mulsh Nov 2018 #33

Always thought she and the senile one had a lot in common.... Hulk Nov 2018 #39

Thatcher promised to follow Reagan to the end of the earth. He promised to organize it! TomVilmer Nov 2018 #40

Keep clinging for later study. calimary Nov 2018 #42

Reagan and Thatcher moondust Nov 2018 #46

Thatcher & Reagan Caused Tremendous Harm to Both Our Countries dlk Nov 2018 #47

i knew there was a reason i hated her. the terrible twins, reagan + thatcher. pansypoo53219 Nov 2018 #49

Thanks UTUSN Nov 2018 #50

One of the most powerful books I have ever read in my entire life. byronius Nov 2018 #53

Responding to save this one underpants Nov 2018 #51

Google the speech Glenda Jackson made in the House dflprincess Nov 2018 #52

how is the book? Good reading? Hamlette Nov 2018 #55

Amazing. byronius Nov 2018 #57

thanks, I'm listening to a podcast on WWI, I'll read Postwar next. Hamlette Nov 2018 #58

And then insecurity turns the 'little people' into authoritarian voters. applegrove Nov 2018 #56

I just ordered the book on your recommendation. n/t QC Nov 2018 #59