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Ms. Toad

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24. Black families are traditionally portrayed as "broken"

Tue Nov 20, 2018, 01:10 AM

Nov 2018

Largely with dad missing.

If you are going to fun an ad campaign with two "traditional families," and one non-traditional one - don't choose the black family to represent the stereotypical absent black father.

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Macys apologizes for ad [View all] Demovictory9 Nov 2018 OP

I don't even have to click on the link. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #1

Only white families have pets. eom IllinoisBirdWatcher Nov 2018 #3

Actually, the Black woman was the only one without a husband. nt Blue_true Nov 2018 #129

Yeah. The traditional white bunch has a Christmas tree. nolabear Nov 2018 #6

Gawd me too. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #8

'not that there's anything wrong with that' melman Nov 2018 #13

Thank you. Wondered the same. Tipperary Nov 2018 #25

Oh, melman. It's just a Seinfeld reference. betsuni Nov 2018 #26

lol betsuni melman Nov 2018 #29

It's a problem because there were two "traditional" white families, pnwmom Nov 2018 #56

Is a gay family somehow lesser than a 'traditional' family? melman Nov 2018 #57

Careful melman JackInGreen Nov 2018 #58

As the daughter of a gay man, I say: GET REAL. This ad is designed pnwmom Nov 2018 #60

Thank you. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #86

Recommended. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #116

No. That's not what anybody is saying. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #87

btw melman Nov 2018 #38

Oh, melman. The 1993 episode won a GLAAD award. betsuni Nov 2018 #40

well as long as they won a GLAAD award, 912gdm Nov 2018 #44

And? melman Nov 2018 #50

Oh, melman. betsuni Nov 2018 #52

That's not the point. The point is there is no father in the black family... brush Nov 2018 #80

Line from Seinfeld???? MontanaMama Nov 2018 #83

I don't feel that there is anything wrong with that. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #85

No way that woman old enough to have had those kids krawhitham Nov 2018 #93

The two white families are the same family Polybius Nov 2018 #119

I never noticed that! MontanaMama Nov 2018 #120

Oh I was looking at the giant penis shaped bears C_U_L8R Nov 2018 #2

But can they cover every group? What about lesbians? California_Republic Nov 2018 #4

Um... Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #7

You missed the point. They had two "traditional" Mom/Dad families of whites. pnwmom Nov 2018 #55

Oh give me a freaking break ... no wonder people hate liberals and our overly PC nature ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #5

Then explain Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #9

You know what's also subconscious? The VIEWERS presumption that the 'missing dad' ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #15

You didn't answer my question Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #21

They're clones. OilemFirchen Nov 2018 #41

I needed that laugh. Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #91

Both white families are traditional with cute dogs included. LisaL Nov 2018 #11

And here I thought the bottom left one was Retrograde Nov 2018 #19

SJW is a right wing term JonLP24 Nov 2018 #65

Nope. Swap the single black mom out, and I'd give them a pass. Ms. Toad Nov 2018 #14

Love ya Ms. Toad, but ... I'm sorry ... your arguments are overly-PC for my personal taste ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #20

Black families are traditionally portrayed as "broken" Ms. Toad Nov 2018 #24

Maybe dad died in a car accident RhodeIslandOne Nov 2018 #42

Or maybe he died in Iraq, valiantly defending his country ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #46

You say so much while yet supporting it with so little evidence. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #102

I'm not raging, only mildly annoyed ... but the fact is, it's a picture, and everyone ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #118

If you're used to being stereotyped and marginalized, the concern is not "overly-P.C." EffieBlack Nov 2018 #30

Isn't this the usual typical over privileged white male response to PoC responses to shityness? uponit7771 Nov 2018 #101

Agreed -- on all your points. nt pnwmom Nov 2018 #61

I Can See It Both Ways erpowers Nov 2018 #22

I'm with you. When you have to strain to find things that offend redstateblues Nov 2018 #34

lol, more than jus white folk post on DU. Some of us didn't have to "strain" at all uponit7771 Nov 2018 #105

LOL. You'd think white people would have figured that out by now, pnwmom Nov 2018 #122

Seriously PatSeg Nov 2018 #47

I agree with you lillypaddle Nov 2018 #54

Why couldn't it have been a single white mother or father? pnwmom Nov 2018 #62

Its the same white family. This isnt really an advert. Its random Celerity Nov 2018 #125

finally - I saw the same thing Locrian Nov 2018 #126

yep, seems sometimes like almost all on social media is shite designed to divide and inflame Celerity Nov 2018 #127

Twitter is a fucking cesspool for this. Locrian Nov 2018 #128

I want to see the full series before casting judgement. N/t TCJ70 Nov 2018 #133

Thankyou the uproar over this is ridiculous Fullduplexxx Nov 2018 #66

Looks like a black dad on top right photo to me. The Wielding Truth Nov 2018 #68

He's the ex-husband of the woman in the lower left. Dave Starsky Nov 2018 #71

hahaha... that's deep. To me they are just a bunch of people posing for a pajama ad. The Wielding Truth Nov 2018 #121

The problem is that when you don't give any thought to photos like this pnwmom Nov 2018 #123

May be lame to you but you're not African American. brush Nov 2018 #81

I agree JonLP24 Nov 2018 #84

+1 uponit7771 Nov 2018 #106

If this ad truly represented my community violetpastille Nov 2018 #92

Is this a joke? If not, "Si'rus (Sir) Masters" probably says, "get off my lawn" a lot. PSPS Nov 2018 #10

Seems to me melman Nov 2018 #18

It IS a joke. Dave Starsky Nov 2018 #72

More Diversity would be good, too.. Cha Nov 2018 #12

well, one family has more than 2 children Retrograde Nov 2018 #16

Good point ... I'm actually most offended by the over-populating families ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #49

I'm sorry I could not detect anything wrong with the ad. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #17

I'm not sorry Awsi Dooger Nov 2018 #23

I didn't notice anything until someone pointed something out...seriously LeftInTX Nov 2018 #27

She's not their Mom...she is their Aunt. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #31

That's what I thought too, that it was a group of kids. Luciferous Nov 2018 #74

This picture is typical for some of us and it didn't need to be pointed out at all. We could tell uponit7771 Nov 2018 #108

No Latinos or Asians? Mixed marriages? Not all heteronormative? Hekate Nov 2018 #28

I'm actually kind of surprised Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #32

Thank you. Good post! n/t pnwmom Nov 2018 #63

Well I, for one, am fucking OFFENDED... Dave Starsky Nov 2018 #73

What is with the random capitalization? Tipperary Nov 2018 #33

Two dogs are being forced to wear pajamas without their consent. milestogo Nov 2018 #35

Here's their web banner on Father's Day LeftInTX Nov 2018 #36

Post removed Post removed Aug 2021 #134

Time for pizza. marble falls Aug 2021 #135

I'm offended that there aren't any Latinos LeftInTX Nov 2018 #37

I see nothing wrong with those photos AlexSFCA Nov 2018 #39

Why are there no menorahs? OilemFirchen Nov 2018 #43

Im kinda pissed there is no FSM 912gdm Nov 2018 #48

I think I get it now. OilemFirchen Nov 2018 #45

FFS! "The man, the boy, and the donkey" Behind the Aegis Nov 2018 #51

Gotta love the casual homophobia of so many of the African Celerity Nov 2018 #53

I just think it's cool that they went for diversity at all. Maybe the black Dad just doesn't like ma lindysalsagal Nov 2018 #59

Macy's apologized JonLP24 Nov 2018 #64

All the parents look d_r Nov 2018 #67

What I noticed first was the colors of the outfits. dansolo Nov 2018 #69

They could have put in a grandma or grandpa. tavernier Nov 2018 #70

If you look hard enough at anything you'll eventually see something. egduj Nov 2018 #75

People are happier than we think? pwb Nov 2018 #76

How can you have dogs dressed up, with no antlers? There are no antlers on those dogs!! TheBlackAdder Nov 2018 #77

I honestly don't see the problem here. People are being too sensitive with this. bearsfootball516 Nov 2018 #78

Macy's does JonLP24 Nov 2018 #79

No problem with the ad. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #82

Or making the 'others' non traditional ? Not everyone who post on DU is white uponit7771 Nov 2018 #112

The moral here is "Never be happy that someone made a commendable effort....... WillowTree Nov 2018 #88

obviously the ad is ageist and weightist, duh. Mosby Nov 2018 #89

I'd Like To Know RobinA Nov 2018 #90

THERE ARE NO MEXICANS violetpastille Nov 2018 #94

Been a long time Macy's customer...hope they go the way of Sears HipChick Nov 2018 #95

Because of this ad? n/t violetpastille Nov 2018 #96

Even Stevie Wonder can see what's up HipChick Nov 2018 #97

20 years ago the idea of an ad featuring a interracial gay couple would have been groundbreaking RhodeIslandOne Nov 2018 #98

A lot of people that work at Macy's will lose their jobs if they go the way of Sears. violetpastille Nov 2018 #99

Jobless is going to happen anyway HipChick Nov 2018 #100

Patterned pajamas are a trend? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #103

The white families are traditional the pictures that included the "others" are not. uponit7771 Nov 2018 #109

Agreed. Mine was humorous, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #110

Ah, Got it, ... and agreed there are some responses here in this thread calling folk too PC uponit7771 Nov 2018 #111

And that fails to recognize that racism is not only explicit. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #113

+1 uponit7771 Nov 2018 #114

Single Black Mom mrsv Nov 2018 #104

Black families with Dad, Mom and kids do exist! mrsv Nov 2018 #107

They sell pyjamas for dogs? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2018 #115

Advertisers seems to have big issues with having black families protrayed. Basement Beat Nov 2018 #117

I just saw a news story about Chris Watts, the Colorado guy who murdered his wife and kids. betsuni Nov 2018 #124

Let me simplify. Iggo Nov 2018 #130

Upper left pic - That could be a single teen mom living with her mom & dad eleny Nov 2018 #131

So we've got four disparate picture from a series... TCJ70 Nov 2018 #132