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42. Clinton was doing good things for the economy.

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Sat Nov 24, 2018, 03:20 PM

Nov 2018

Trump is a disaster .

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The debate about impeachment is over. It's now a matter of survival. [View all] shockey80 Nov 2018 OP

Well said. Trump is a clear and present danger. He must be removed ASAP. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #1

You say it's a matter of survival, but unless the Senate convicts, it won't really matter either way bearsfootball516 Nov 2018 #2

Unfortunate truth & the consequence of how one votes. Bfd Nov 2018 #5

BUT Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #18

I want each senator that votes to keep this monstrosity in office to go on record erronis Nov 2018 #26

Or worse... Stargazer09 Nov 2018 #70

Like I said, we can't worry about the senate. shockey80 Nov 2018 #3

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #20

Agree. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2018 #87

History. Yes. Let trump go into the history books with that big blot on his record. calimary Nov 2018 #92

I keep fantasizing that he will take a trip to Russia. MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #97

What scares me is the apathy, the ignorance, the lack of urgency from the people. shockey80 Nov 2018 #4

This is what gets to me. Is everyone just sitting around, killing time on their phones? VOX Nov 2018 #101

Protecting the rule of law, and our democratic republic, demands a lawful and thoughtful process. nt FreepFryer Nov 2018 #6

American democracy has been subverted and its foundations shaken dalton99a Nov 2018 #7

+1+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #21

But then Pence wouldn't be much worse treestar Nov 2018 #72

Agreed, I've long thought that curious as well stopwastingmymoney Nov 2018 #89

Yep. The GOP leadership is going on a ride to RICO land. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2018 #90

It is worth noting that chief justice John Roberts would preside over any impeachment trial. MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #98

Bottom line, waiting to vote Trump out may be too late. shockey80 Nov 2018 #8

As long as fox news is on the air lancelyons Nov 2018 #9

Fuck Fox and Fuck the Trump voters. shockey80 Nov 2018 #10

I don't think the poster said that. defacto7 Nov 2018 #16

I think even fux can be persuaded to change its tune. erronis Nov 2018 #30

+1 Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #94

I believe I understand how Georg Elser felt. shockey80 Nov 2018 #11

Thanks for the mention of one of those who tried to overthrow the prior SHitler. erronis Nov 2018 #33

Economic chaos is easily created by tRumpy. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2018 #12

Twitler is already saying the economic downturn is because the Ds won the House. OMGWTF Nov 2018 #22

And rump is full of lies. Who believes him anymore? Certainly not the majority of the ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #41

Has anyone noticed that Wall Street isn't happy? CloudWatcher Nov 2018 #13

This Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #23

I find myself wishing for an economic downturn... srobertss Nov 2018 #38

with all respect, we do have to worry about the Senate. cab67 Nov 2018 #14

Like I said, you cannot compare this with The Clinton impeachment. That's insane. shockey80 Nov 2018 #24

Clinton was doing good things for the economy. True Blue American Nov 2018 #42

Exactly what would you have him impeached for? Clinton.... reACTIONary Nov 2018 #63

There are four ways for a presidency to end Jarqui Nov 2018 #15

Good analysis of four ways to remove dump. But we still need to clean out the traitors in congress. erronis Nov 2018 #35

Mitch already said he thought about retiring before the last True Blue American Nov 2018 #44

They used the House/Congress to try to destroy Hillary with Benghazi and the emails Jarqui Nov 2018 #57

And some "democrats" may get caught up in trying to protect their asseTs. erronis Nov 2018 #60

That is a good point Jarqui Nov 2018 #64

5 - You left out resignation. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2018 #56

Fair point. Jarqui Nov 2018 #59

I don't know - "resigning in a huff" and blaming someone else would be very Trumpian. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2018 #68

I can see him dropping out for 2020 something like that Jarqui Nov 2018 #69

Well... PoliticAverse Nov 2018 #74

Executive privilege does go away when one is no longer President. Jarqui Nov 2018 #76

Also left out is assassination. Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #86

How could you leave out #5? Polybius Nov 2018 #58

It happened because Nixon was going to get impeached Jarqui Nov 2018 #61

Me neither, but it shouldn't be left out Polybius Nov 2018 #62

Yes Jarqui Nov 2018 #65

It would have been very hard for the Senate not to have voted for impeachment. erronis Nov 2018 #66

absolutely right! green917 Nov 2018 #17

That's just so laughable. bitterross Nov 2018 #25

I agree with most of your points, but not your conclusion. bitterross Nov 2018 #19

The Senate is not like the house. shockey80 Nov 2018 #27

+1. erronis Nov 2018 #36

Impeachment alone will accomplish nothing. How do you think pnwmom Nov 2018 #28

You don't know that. shockey80 Nov 2018 #29

Yes, I do. What is incorrect about what I said? If he is impeached, pnwmom Nov 2018 #39

Impeachment would remove a madman from the Whitehouse. shockey80 Nov 2018 #43

NO, IT WOULDN'T. Bill Clinton was impeached. Was he removed from the WH? pnwmom Nov 2018 #45

As pnwmom has explained removing a President is a two step process and if the Senate cstanleytech Nov 2018 #48

I'm sorry, but that's just constitutionally wrong. Only after Senate conviction would he be "removed Tarheel_Dem Nov 2018 #73

And yet, as accurate as you are, if he is removed FIFTY MILLION assholes will Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #31

We will reserve impeachment for the moment Trump tries to do something that would irreparably harm Nitram Nov 2018 #32

Covering up a murder is not enough? shockey80 Nov 2018 #37

Ask the Senate. Nitram Nov 2018 #40

The House does its job to impeach Trump ASAP. PufPuf23 Nov 2018 #34

The first obstacle would be Mitch McConnell. He would have to agree pnwmom Nov 2018 #49

McConnell will not cooperate unless cornered. PufPuf23 Nov 2018 #53

The Democrats don't get to pick when McConnell goes. n/t pnwmom Nov 2018 #55

It is worth noting that chief justice John Roberts would preside over an impeachment trial. MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #99

You are right about who presides. But I think McConnell has enough control pnwmom Nov 2018 #100

I want him out of office as well however there is almost no chance in hell that enough Senate cstanleytech Nov 2018 #46

Once again, you don't know what will happen in the senate. shockey80 Nov 2018 #51

Wont work. The Repugnants would simply play act it but they would simply cstanleytech Nov 2018 #75

Unfortunately, it's very unlikely to occur. cwydro Nov 2018 #47

Correct. We didn't impeach Bush and Cheney for war crimes Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #96

LET IT GO TO THE SENATE! There are gonna be Republican Senators facing re-election in 2 years who BamaRefugee Nov 2018 #50

indictments not_the_one Nov 2018 #52

"The debate about impeachment is over." - really, the House will be impeaching Trump in January? n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2018 #54

One question workinclasszero Nov 2018 #67

That is a good argument treestar Nov 2018 #71

Had Clinton been elected the chaos may have been averted since the greatest Persondem Nov 2018 #77

Remember what the villains were called amywalk Nov 2018 #78

I believe that events are converging that will force impeachment. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #79

Shockey80 MFM008 Nov 2018 #80

This obsession with impeachment will backfire. Clinton was impeached and only gained in popularity. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2018 #81

One lied about an affair. The other is trying to turn the world to ashes. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #95

Well said. byronius Nov 2018 #82

Not saying impeachment shouldn't be weighed DFW Nov 2018 #83

And he's going to let Saudi Arabia go nuclear. nt Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #84

So, evangelical fanatic Prez Pence triggering his Endtimes Rapture is a wise move? n/t Prof.Higgins Nov 2018 #85

So then customerserviceguy Nov 2018 #88

Reality check: Impeachment does not remove a president from office, elocs Nov 2018 #91

Sadly, Dems don't have the political power to remove him from office yet. mart48 Nov 2018 #93

wheres the Cigarette Man When you need him? samnsara Nov 2018 #102