Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

VOX

(22,976 posts)
138. True, and the claimants were easily identifiable. Yet, whenever the issue of reparations...
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 09:54 PM
Nov 2018

...for slavery arises, the compensation of incarcerated Japanese Americans invariably comes up, both in "for" arguments (precedent) and "against" arguments (affected individuals were known, etc.)

Yes JonLP24 Nov 2018 #1
Yep. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #2
Should we? Yes hlthe2b Nov 2018 #3
Let us know when you have the details worked out... brooklynite Nov 2018 #4
I have just come back from Bermuda Soph0571 Nov 2018 #6
Like the details are more important shanny Nov 2018 #55
Depends on whether the concept is meaningless symbolism... brooklynite Nov 2018 #89
A concept is not a symbol shanny Nov 2018 #156
But how would one do such a thing without the details? fescuerescue Nov 2018 #139
So since there would be details as with every other resolution and issue on earth, you ignore it? Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #61
We will. whathehell Nov 2018 #63
Sigh! I expected nothing less from you. brush Nov 2018 #66
Thank you! brooklynite Nov 2018 #92
You're predictable. brush Nov 2018 #93
So is reality brooklynite Nov 2018 #97
So true. Glad to see some common sense around here. Cernunnos_x Nov 2018 #147
No way to determine who gets paid and who does not...... USALiberal Nov 2018 #5
I agree there. Greater investment and shifting resources into minority communities. smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #13
Yes, this seems to be the only feasible way. IphengeniaBlumgarten Nov 2018 #14
+1 n/t area51 Nov 2018 #48
See post 68. brush Nov 2018 #70
That's the form Reparations could take.. whathehell Nov 2018 #67
Ever heard of the Dawes Rolls, or even 23 and Me? brush Nov 2018 #68
And when is that gonna happen? Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #83
If you focus on 1932 - 1968 you can JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #150
You're getting there. No one is advocating individual checks being cut... brush Nov 2018 #161
Yes, and I think we eventually will... Laffy Kat Nov 2018 #7
When the English abolished slavery Soph0571 Nov 2018 #8
To be fair, the Royal Navy did do some nice things for slaves after that: Pope George Ringo II Nov 2018 #102
Yes. (eom) Iggo Nov 2018 #9
No metroins Nov 2018 #10
Yes. shanny Nov 2018 #11
No........ Takket Nov 2018 #12
See post 68. brush Nov 2018 #71
The United Nations says we should, and I agree. Reparations can take many forms. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #15
How do you determine who gets paid? What about Native Americans? No. It's better to Autumn Nov 2018 #16
See post 68. And include Native Americans, brush Nov 2018 #72
So we know who? No I'm still against it. Instead of paying the individuals for what their Autumn Nov 2018 #75
Investing in the black community with college scholarships, small business grants... brush Nov 2018 #79
I'm a Latina so I don't see this from a privileged comfort zone. Yes our country Autumn Nov 2018 #84
Latino/a Americans as well should be included. Your suggestion to concentrate... brush Nov 2018 #88
Did you not read I said no checks cut to individuals? brush Nov 2018 #80
That's a great suggestion fescuerescue Nov 2018 #141
Yes. johnp3907 Nov 2018 #17
Didn't many of those African nations facilitate the slave trade ? MichMan Nov 2018 #29
Yes indeed. cwydro Nov 2018 #34
Think this through SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #18
I guess identity politics is not at the heart of how you think? Soph0571 Nov 2018 #21
See post 68. brush Nov 2018 #73
Yes - Obama would JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #152
Yes lunatica Nov 2018 #19
No. I just posted above about the corruption of US Steel Drahthaardogs Nov 2018 #20
Indentured servitude and slavery are two very distinct things Soph0571 Nov 2018 #22
Different yes, but... Not THAT different. Free labor and when Drahthaardogs Nov 2018 #35
But you receive benefit every single day... Soph0571 Nov 2018 #36
So do the descendents of slaves, native Americans, and Mexican immigrants Drahthaardogs Nov 2018 #39
I think they may argue otherwise Soph0571 Nov 2018 #40
I suggest you watch Pane Amaro to see Drahthaardogs Nov 2018 #41
I wish you good luck with this. cwydro Nov 2018 #44
Most don't even know what is considered a lynching Drahthaardogs Nov 2018 #46
Many here can think only in the direction of the narrative. cwydro Nov 2018 #90
My husband is an Italian immigrant JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #153
This is a long article, but so good violetpastille Nov 2018 #60
Yes, people don't realize how many things would be better MountCleaners Nov 2018 #117
Who's asking you to pay anything? Reducing the military budget by 5%... brush Nov 2018 #76
That doesn't make any sense. Drahthaardogs Nov 2018 #86
And so is your privilege. It's showing. Japanese families were paid... brush Nov 2018 #91
We were not. Drahthaardogs Nov 2018 #95
You are so warped in your thinking it's pathetic. Our labor was stolen... brush Nov 2018 #96
That's fine, Drahthaardogs Nov 2018 #98
It's not about your history, and was legal then, government sanctioned... brush Nov 2018 #103
Reperations to Japanese and Jewish people were to those that were actually interned MichMan Nov 2018 #100
Ever heard of the Dawes Rolls, or 23 and Me for that matter? brush Nov 2018 #106
Dawes rolls isn't a great example fescuerescue Nov 2018 #142
So you're saying in another way it just can't be done? brush Nov 2018 #143
I'm saying the Dawes Rolls is bad example fescuerescue Nov 2018 #145
The Dawes rolls was used as an example, granted, an imperfect one... brush Nov 2018 #146
Nothing JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #151
See post 68. brush Nov 2018 #74
Native Americans ought to be first in line. Without their stolen land, there'd be no western wealth. Kaleva Nov 2018 #23
Yep. We all live on stolen land Drahthaardogs Nov 2018 #42
So what'ts up? You're in favor of reparations for Native Americans but not African Americans? brush Nov 2018 #78
My father was a direct descendant of a Seminole Slave JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #155
Yep. cwydro Nov 2018 #43
It's rather racist to exclude Native Americans in any discussion about Reparations. Kaleva Nov 2018 #47
Yes. MountCleaners Nov 2018 #24
This makes sense. dameatball Nov 2018 #126
It is a much better investment in our society than tax cuts for corporations unitedwethrive Nov 2018 #25
Nope! JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #26
Jim Crow as well as hundreds of years of stolen labor. brush Nov 2018 #107
And it's easy to do it JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #149
Good idea. It would also blunt the notion of those thinking anyone is... brush Nov 2018 #160
Exactly JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #163
Yes. violetpastille Nov 2018 #27
What happens when a blonde haired, blue eyed white man Jake Stern Nov 2018 #28
No, not at all... history is soaked with blood and culpability JCMach1 Nov 2018 #30
Exactly Raine Nov 2018 #99
You stated my opinion better than I could. nt LAS14 Nov 2018 #110
Certainly, as long as we are ready to deal with elocs Nov 2018 #31
We already tried during reconstruction LeftInTX Nov 2018 #32
Would descendants of European serfs also have a claim?? malchickiwick Nov 2018 #33
IMO comparison between slaves and serfs is a canard Soph0571 Nov 2018 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Nov 2018 #38
It's too late, unfortunately cyclonefence Nov 2018 #45
Precisely. Reconstruction would have been entirely different with Lincoln. n/t VOX Nov 2018 #111
Actually.... Xolodno Nov 2018 #112
Who do you pay? That's the main problem with this Downtown Hound Nov 2018 #49
Lots and lots of problems with this... Adrahil Nov 2018 #50
WE will work it out, solve those questions, and then it is time to pay Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #62
I'll wait to see the plan... Adrahil Nov 2018 #64
Are Native Americans included in this plan? Kaleva Nov 2018 #81
And Japanese Americans and Chinese Americans Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #82
True Kaleva Nov 2018 #94
Some Japanese Americans received compensation in 1988 for WWII incarceration. VOX Nov 2018 #124
Those who were actually incarcerated were the ones compensated MichMan Nov 2018 #125
True, and the claimants were easily identifiable. Yet, whenever the issue of reparations... VOX Nov 2018 #138
I always wonder why Native Americans are not included in this discussion. Kaleva Nov 2018 #140
How long has this been under discussion? brooklynite Nov 2018 #104
OMG, do HEAR what you just said Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #113
Tell us what the Obama Administration did? brooklynite Nov 2018 #116
Thank you. cwydro Nov 2018 #119
I see, like healthcare he was supposed to fix what 200 years of non POC prez could Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #121
So it was impossible for him to advocate for them if he believed they were necessary? brooklynite Nov 2018 #127
I thought you were the insider, you knew so much about politics, surely if you do you realize Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #129
Bernie Sanders goes out on a limb all the time... brooklynite Nov 2018 #133
and you and I both know why, in this very racist country, mostly from the right Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #134
Apparently, it's the Mexicans doing that. cwydro Nov 2018 #122
No it isn't. Read the on scene reports: George II Nov 2018 #136
anytime I see someone go OUT OF THEIR Way to post something that can easily be construed as Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #162
More: George II Nov 2018 #137
No nt doc03 Nov 2018 #51
Well we haven't done that great job of looking forward or a better future JonLP24 Nov 2018 #52
Damn straight!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #53
I would prefer a vigorous attack on job, housing, services discrimination. Blue_true Nov 2018 #54
This LeftInTX Nov 2018 #148
I think there are things we can do in the name of reparations. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #56
After we pay Native Americans randr Nov 2018 #57
+1000 Luciferous Nov 2018 #59
No Luciferous Nov 2018 #58
Yes. whathehell Nov 2018 #65
It would be hard to figure out marlakay Nov 2018 #69
Yes, in the form of the very best education and job training in impoverished areas of this country flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #77
not just for slavery. the reason for reparations would have more to do with what happened JI7 Nov 2018 #85
Your premises are not wholly correct. Not all western wealth was built on slavery. wasupaloopa Nov 2018 #87
No nt Raine Nov 2018 #101
I would rather see voter suppression outlawed. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #105
What 40 acres and a mule...wasn't that the supposed deal originally Historic NY Nov 2018 #108
It was floated as a policy by General William Tecumseh Sherman in 1865 MichMan Nov 2018 #109
That had problems written all over it. Xolodno Nov 2018 #115
Absolutely. MuseRider Nov 2018 #114
Yes. In some manner. In some form. n/t LuckyCharms Nov 2018 #118
No Tarc Nov 2018 #120
Yes but ismnotwasm Nov 2018 #123
yup JI7 Nov 2018 #144
yes mucifer Nov 2018 #128
The best Reparations... Mike Nelson Nov 2018 #130
YES. Please read Ta-Nehisi Coates' 2014 "The Atlantic" article, "The Case for Reparations." (link) VOX Nov 2018 #131
No. It would be a cluster fuck of epic proportions. Xolodno Nov 2018 #132
What are we gonna pay them with? roamer65 Nov 2018 #135
no. how are reparations fair to the descendants of the many rampartc Nov 2018 #154
Yes! Expanding Affirmative Action, providing free health care and education from K through college jcmaine72 Nov 2018 #157
This message was self-deleted by its author Afromania Nov 2018 #158
Yes Afromania Nov 2018 #159
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Should we pay Reparations...»Reply #138