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hfojvt

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88. I doubt if it does any good, and it may even do some harm
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 11:28 PM
Aug 2012

if people cannot give a reason, a motive that I have asked for, and not been given.

He did it on purpose? Why?

And to me the big problem is not how the rich evade the taxes they are supposed to pay, It is how they change the laws so that they can LEGALLY pay much less in taxes. From 1986 to 2006, the top 1% were given $2 trillion dollars in LEGAL tax cuts, much of that coming from the last 4 years from the Bush tax cuts. Tax cuts that Ryan's plan would legally extend forever, and add even more. That is the real evil of his plan. He claims to want to balance the budget, and yet Ryan starts with a whole bunch of tax breaks for the rich.

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"It was just an oversight, I swear . . I mean 1 - 5 million? annabanana Aug 2012 #1
Of course. It could have happened to anybody, right? Arkansas Granny Aug 2012 #32
Wow, that reminds me Roy Rolling Aug 2012 #39
Hey, I've overlooked my 7 figure trust many times. Don't we all? MattSh Aug 2012 #70
Eh, de minimis jsr Aug 2012 #2
Yeah, take for example Sen. Ted "ethics, what is ethics" Stevens Coyotl Aug 2012 #23
I guess it takes a tax cheat to know a tax cheat 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #3
Oops. aquart Aug 2012 #4
So hopelessly out of touch with regular Americans. trotsky Aug 2012 #5
Wait, wasn't his wife a tax attorney? nt nc4bo Aug 2012 #6
You tend to forget about pocket change. Downwinder Aug 2012 #7
meh. happens all the time. poor guy probably left it in the other pants. magical thyme Aug 2012 #14
K&R. Overseas Aug 2012 #8
Republican occultism Berlum Aug 2012 #9
They think it's their "responsibility" to pay no more than legally required bigbrother05 Aug 2012 #20
But by hiding their wealth, Republicans are cheating Berlum Aug 2012 #21
Good grief, your average Money Magazine article shows you how to do just that: hide assets Wednesdays Aug 2012 #74
Not 'Murkian -- Republican Berlum Aug 2012 #78
anyone who has a problem with this is just jealous Enrique Aug 2012 #10
between $1,000,001 and $5 million? RC Aug 2012 #11
Ryan probably can hfojvt Aug 2012 #15
What other (including off shored) investments might he have BumRushDaShow Aug 2012 #12
I atually can understand mistakes of this type hfojvt Aug 2012 #13
Really? Forgetting a few million that you *just* inherited? magical thyme Aug 2012 #16
What is his MOTIVE for leaving it off? hfojvt Aug 2012 #29
I don't know. Where else did he "forget" to include it? magical thyme Aug 2012 #47
So you have nothing. hfojvt Aug 2012 #50
I've got speculation. And until he releases his tax returns magical thyme Aug 2012 #80
Off topic reply... xtraxritical Aug 2012 #85
so you can imagine life with your "family" in a small car magical thyme Aug 2012 #89
We should do it because it needs to be done jmowreader Aug 2012 #86
I doubt if it does any good, and it may even do some harm hfojvt Aug 2012 #88
they want to control the taxes we pay, but still hide the taxes they paid magical thyme Aug 2012 #90
Wait. What? The dude "forgot" a multi - million dollar fund. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #91
Ryan has always portrayed himself as a "Working Class Guy", just like most of his district. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #59
and the extra million would make a difference? hfojvt Aug 2012 #66
His wife made her living as a tax attorney for 2 big corporations. nc4bo Aug 2012 #19
and professionals make mistakes all the time hfojvt Aug 2012 #36
To accidently avoid paying anything. 1st year perhaps an error. 2 years? No pass. nc4bo Aug 2012 #38
whether he reports it on his House disclosure forms hfojvt Aug 2012 #42
Motive? George II Aug 2012 #45
get away with WHAT, exactly? hfojvt Aug 2012 #53
Bending Over Backwards For Him , Aren't You? (nt) Paladin Aug 2012 #67
I think it is a fairly straightforward question. hfojvt Aug 2012 #69
Get away with NOT complying with the law or full disclosure. George II Aug 2012 #93
Public perception is one guess... LanternWaste Aug 2012 #55
In 2010, he beat Heckenlively by 100,000 votes hfojvt Aug 2012 #63
I imagine the target demographics are rather different between a local and national race. LanternWaste Aug 2012 #65
You try that excuse with the IRS two years running, see where that gets you. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #56
spoken like a Vogon hfojvt Aug 2012 #61
He was hiding his true net worth from his constituency. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #64
actually I ran for Congress hfojvt Aug 2012 #68
Because his schtick to his constituents is that he's a regular guy riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #84
I forgot=a mistake? FatIrishBastard Aug 2012 #60
so when I filed three amended tax returns hfojvt Aug 2012 #72
Yes FatIrishBastard Aug 2012 #73
Maybe they should ask if he killed anyone KurtNYC Aug 2012 #17
In Fairness... KharmaTrain Aug 2012 #18
A few questions--- Grammy23 Aug 2012 #27
Congressional Disclosure Forms... KharmaTrain Aug 2012 #28
A trust would file its own income tax return on a Form 1041. FarCenter Aug 2012 #46
If that's the case, why would he disclose it now? Arkansas Granny Aug 2012 #35
A Question Worth Asking... KharmaTrain Aug 2012 #40
Calling CREW, we have a new Worst Scoundrel for you. Coyotl Aug 2012 #22
Congress should make this a very severe penalty - 25% of the amount of the assets "forgotten" cbdo2007 Aug 2012 #24
"Oops" FailureToCommunicate Aug 2012 #25
Well, he was a Political Science major and a frat boy. FarCenter Aug 2012 #48
And under Ryan's plan LondonReign2 Aug 2012 #26
Prudence Little? What is this, "Pilgrim's Progress"? n/t Bossy Monkey Aug 2012 #30
Sounds like the old Steve Martin joke about how to become a millionaire. gkhouston Aug 2012 #31
How Convenient! GraniteDem Aug 2012 #33
Kind of puts a dent into the impression they are trying to give of the Ryans being worth less than Skidmore Aug 2012 #34
Excellent observation. He's probably not in Romney's league, but LibDemAlways Aug 2012 #54
On the verge of getting caught..... Sheepshank Aug 2012 #37
That's why it's called the "Etch-a-Sketch" campaign! George II Aug 2012 #44
I wonder what it's like to find a couple of million bucks under the sofa nt MrScorpio Aug 2012 #41
I would love to have enough money that would cause $1-$5M to be overlooked!!!!! George II Aug 2012 #43
I can understand that. I keep forgetting about a few million here and there on my returns. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #49
Mr. 1% Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2012 #51
"What do you expect? It's just chump change to me." nt valerief Aug 2012 #52
Clarence Thomas redux. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #57
That happens to me all the time ... bayareaboy Aug 2012 #58
no wonder he and Mr. Bain get along so well. They have so much in commoners. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2012 #62
What? Financial DISCLOSURE forms? You mean like McCain fills out every year??? progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #71
and we are supposed to trust ANY numbers he presents to Americans at this point? tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #75
Interesting that he checked the following "No" box on the original 2011 filing-- Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2012 #76
How many millions in his IRA? DonRedwood Aug 2012 #77
and the Trust appears to be the largest single holding among their disclosed portfolio Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2012 #79
True. This was very unlikely to be "inadvertent." highplainsdem Aug 2012 #81
Very interesting... kentuck Aug 2012 #82
I don't buy it. Wouldn't he have an accountant who filled this stuff out for him. gollygee Aug 2012 #83
Ryan gives off a middle class vibe...public should know he's a 1%-er. reformist2 Aug 2012 #87
In all honestly it is very easy to forget about a $5 Million dollar trust NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #92
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