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Hamlette

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14. I think he has something to hide, something that would admitting would be worse than prison

Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:50 PM

Nov 2018

IMHO he is not afraid of Putin. You notice, Putin kills people in other countries, not here in the US.

It is possible that Trump sent word that he would pardon him and he discussed the state charges with counsel and decided to chance it.

At least I hope that is what it is and I assume Mueller knows what it is.

It must be bad. Saying: "I took money to give favorable treatment to Russia." Would not be enough. My guess is the feds have him on tape saying he would do something clearly against US interests.

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Pardons won't help Manafort. He admitted to state crimes in his plea agreement. [View all] tableturner Nov 2018 OP

I think the theory is that he's afraid of the Russian mafia. Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #1

Oh he probably afraid of a specific Russian with the last name of Putin and cstanleytech Nov 2018 #3

Why would he silence him multiple times? eggplant Nov 2018 #9

Multiple times as in one case polonium was used to murder Alexander Litvinenko cstanleytech Nov 2018 #15

If its so plausibel, why did he fight so hard to stay out of prison onenote Nov 2018 #19

Paulie took a shot Pantagruel Nov 2018 #2

Bazinga! He's toast no matter what trump does. George II Nov 2018 #4

Excellent post. This is what many are missing, Manafort's guilty plea is bullet proof. Pepsidog Nov 2018 #5

Which state? regnaD kciN Nov 2018 #6

The reason they put edhopper Nov 2018 #7

State tax fraud could be prosecuted by the state of NY even if Manfort got a pardon Kaleva Nov 2018 #10

If they have him on RICO charges (tax evasion) FakeNoose Nov 2018 #11

Mueller had Manafort admit to crimes not federally charged, which are also state crimes. tableturner Nov 2018 #13

That's not what Gamble is about Nevilledog Nov 2018 #21

Thank you for that Jarqui Nov 2018 #26

You're very welcome. Nevilledog Nov 2018 #27

I was one who misunderstood so your efforts helped me greatly Jarqui Nov 2018 #29

I would totally agree with those changes. Nevilledog Nov 2018 #30

I was thinking about this Jarqui Nov 2018 #32

Then they are stupider than I thought. Nevilledog Nov 2018 #33

"involving the same incident" my understanding is involving similar is good enough l uponit7771 Nov 2018 #28

Manafort sold his soul to the devil Buckeyeblue Nov 2018 #8

the whitey bulger hit may have been a message to snitches certainot Nov 2018 #12

I think he has something to hide, something that would admitting would be worse than prison Hamlette Nov 2018 #14

State charges: He has no defense. He admitted to acts that are illegal in New York, for example. tableturner Nov 2018 #16

I think there are legal arguments he could use Hamlette Nov 2018 #17

Manafort had immunity, lied, had it fairly taken away. No 5th amendment violation. tableturner Nov 2018 #18

Dershowitz should study New York law. onenote Nov 2018 #20

Actually, you are wrong. tableturner Nov 2018 #22

Actually, not necessarily. onenote Nov 2018 #23

I am referring to a long list of illegal acts admitted by Manafort. tableturner Nov 2018 #24

The Statement of Offenses to which Manafort Subscribed onenote Nov 2018 #25

K&R Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #31