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Gothmog

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35. There are other legal structures that are easier than Ponzi schemes

Reply to Dyedinthewoolliberal (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 01:05 AM

Nov 2018

Ponzi schemes require new investors or targets to constantly come into the investment. You would see some evidence of this if trump was constantly offering new debt or equity to investors. Ponzi schemes require a ton of promotion and a supply of gullible marks or targets.

Here, I suspect that trump is being financed by Putin or other Russians oligarchs by the use of equity investments in trump LLCs and that in effect trump is managing a ton of assets for the benefit of Putin or other Russians

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