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In reply to the discussion: IMO the denial of Sweden to guarantee Assange that he will not be sent to the US is enough to [View all]
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)32. While I don't go so far as to think him repugnant,
I would like to see the case settled in court. However, as long as Sweden will not guarantee that they won't extradite him, that cannot happen. No one who committed sexual assault/rape (depending on the legal definitions) should face punishment for anything other than their crime(s), just as no criminal should face rape in addition to their punishment (US jails, I'm looking at you.) As it is, we don't know whether Assange is guilty of the charges against him, because it is not right to risk having him face rendition/torture/gitmo/what have you in order to find out. It's a travesty of the Swedish judicial system that they deny the accusers their day in court just because the Swedish government is too obedient of the US. Assange is right to refuse to go to Sweden, but I hope that one day this will be resolved properly.
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IMO the denial of Sweden to guarantee Assange that he will not be sent to the US is enough to [View all]
redgreenandblue
Aug 2012
OP
if the allegations were true then Sweden has acted in the most disgusting manner
Swagman
Aug 2012
#1
She can arrest him there - there's an unprecedented Interpol arrest warrant for questioning!
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#39
If she was to arrest him in London would Assange surrender and go back to Sweden?
hack89
Aug 2012
#48
The British police just recently arrested 11 Icelandic bankers on Interpol arrest warrants
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#57
Sure he will, Sweden just has to give him an assurance they won't extradite him to the US. Simple
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#67
Apparently he does have a legal leg to stand on or he wouldn't be sitting in the Embassy
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#274
Neutralized? He just got the support of the entire continent of South America,
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#278
I give up. If you cannot understand what happened here, I don't have time to waste
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#280
The British police did arrest Assange once and were preparing to arrest him again
hack89
Aug 2012
#68
I see nothing in your comments that preclude or even defend the Swedish prosecutor from interviewing
hlthe2b
Aug 2012
#53
The Brits have already agreed to extradict him. There is no reason NOT to interview him in London.
hlthe2b
Aug 2012
#61
The point being argued is that the Swedes can't arrest someone in a foreign country
hack89
Aug 2012
#73
So you honestly believe that Assange would have surrendered to Swedish authorities
hack89
Aug 2012
#94
He has potentially committed two "Offences against the administration of public justice"
hack89
Aug 2012
#211
Thank you. I knew this info was out there but I didn't have time to look for it.
Luminous Animal
Aug 2012
#126
His lawyer had asked for an interview for weeks and was refused. He was then told it was okay
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#264
The lawyer(and thus Assange) knew seven days in advance of Assange's interview.
hack89
Aug 2012
#265
So Assange willingly choose indefinite incarceration in the Ecuadorian embassy.
hack89
Aug 2012
#106
He's having a great time according to his beautiful, female Australian legal advisor.
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#219
And since the police DID interview Assange and have been free to do so again
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#160
Well now you are proving HIS point, his reason for not being willing to trust them.
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#167
Then why have the refused to accept his repeated invitations to speak to him?
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#171
And has been demonstrated to you over and over, they can arrest him in the UK. nt
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#174
Then why pray tell do you say over and over that "they can't arrest him"? They can
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#176
I absolutely do NOT support violating the sovereignty of a foreign embassy
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#182
That is so much bs. If they believe there is sufficient evidence to arrest him, they don't need
1monster
Aug 2012
#203
His lawyer testified to this in a British court - it is a matter of public record
hack89
Aug 2012
#216
there are lots of ways to internalize a narrative provided by society's owners
villager
Aug 2012
#82
It's not the disagreement, it's the apologies and situational ethics. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#108
Military Industrial Complex. Its something Eisenhower first put into common usage
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#157
Ecuador is being commended now all over the world. The Brits and Sweden are being
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#6
"--- You can't give a blanket pardon to someone before seeing the evidence..."
jerseyjack
Aug 2012
#12
good to know you support a Swedish prosecutor who is a partner in a law firm advised by Karl Rove
Swagman
Aug 2012
#85
one of your fellow assange supporters used the article to defend assange by making false claims
Bodhi BloodWave
Aug 2012
#231
Actually, it's one of the oldest swedish newspapers; it's owned by a labor federation; and
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#248
Well, when women state clearly that they were not raped, I think it is insulting to
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#133
"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story"
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#235
Except the women themselves aren't calling it "rape", nor did they want to press charges
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#34
"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story"
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#236
and yet Sweden's actions have been an utter disgrace to genuine rape victims everywhere
Swagman
Aug 2012
#88
"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story"
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#237
If you think their testimony supports your view you believe them; otherwise you call them liars
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#240
And you are still not posting the evidence that shows that the 'other woman'
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#241
For the 10th time since you keep spamming these threads, Sweden has a history of rendition
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#33
No. The UK has not been implicated in THAT particular war crime. But Sweden has nt
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#42
Sweden was complicit with US in previous cases of extraordinary rendition.
HooptieWagon
Aug 2012
#47
Last time I'm going to answer this. Sweden has a history of participating in illegal rendition
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#65
To declare him a terrorist or an enemy combatat so they can disappear him
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#154
The US is doing something. They have a Grand Jury seated looking into charging
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#97
The UK extradites about 20 people/yr to the US, Sweden extradites about 1/yr
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#177
When the whole sordid history of that era is written down, it will be clear that the UK was more
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#184
You mean when Wikileaks exposes the UK like they did with Sweden's war crimes
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#186
The 2001 Swedish case wasn't exposed by Wikileaks: the victims sued in court for damages and won
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#187
Please by all means, avoid the point that we won't know the "whole sordid tale"
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#193
but if they wanted to aid the us with an 'extraordinary' rendition they'd just say 'sure we promise'
Bodhi BloodWave
Aug 2012
#267
You act as if Sweden would be forced to do this in the future, that's just plain ridiculous.
EOTE
Aug 2012
#228
i suppose that could be the case, aside from the inconvenient fact that the women..
frylock
Aug 2012
#271
one of the females thinks she was a victim of sexual abuse/molestation but not rape
Bodhi BloodWave
Aug 2012
#272
"It's as thought he last ten years never happened and I find it frightening."
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#103
I think it's the same people who run around this website questioning other Democrats
Puglover
Aug 2012
#270
Such possibilities, and similar possibilities, are already covered by existing treaties:
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#227
Assange thinks he can set conditions Sweden must meet, before he goes to Sweden
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#246
So you DO believe a person under extradition order has some right, to demand that everyone promise
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#250
Do we need 30 threads on this guy? majority of people don't care. Can we have an Assange Forum? n/t
progressivebydesign
Aug 2012
#60
dear! precious! Julian never argued in court that he was in danger of being sent on to the US
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#104
"... There was at one stage a suggestion that Mr Assange could be extradited to the USA (possibly to
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#122
That court made a terrible decision, which is not unusual for courts btw. But that
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#156
It's shocking the amount of DUers who do not view it as a crime anymore. nt
laundry_queen
Aug 2012
#202
Sweden improperly transferred two prisoners to Egypt in 2001 and got
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#239
Here's the 2006 HRW summary: Diplomatic Assurances Against Torture Offer No Protection From Abuse
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#244
So... Sweden should put aside treaties and international laws for this one man because?
CabCurious
Aug 2012
#269