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EffieBlack

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33. Thank you!

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 11:49 AM

Dec 2018

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You are exactly right. If we’ve changed our minds and are ok with an older “Establishment” candidate who’s been around the block once or twice, Hillary Clinton has more than earned her shot at it. But since I’m sure that that is not the case - at least judging from all of the “Go away, Hillary. It’s time for new blood” dismissals of her every time she has the temerity to say anything - why is anyone even considering taking Biden seriously as a potential candidate?

Don’t get me wrong. I like Biden, think he would make a good president (if he can figure out how to keep his foot out of his mouth, since the gaffers that may be charming in a VP aren’t so much in the president) and would fight like hell for him if he were the nominee. But the double standard sickens me.

If Hillary has no business in the running, neither does Biden. If Biden is an acceptable candidate, the Hillary hate needs to stop. Folks can’t have it both ways.

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Joe Biden believes he is the 'most qualified person in the country to be president' [View all] DonViejo Dec 2018 OP

He may well be right Soxfan58 Dec 2018 #1

He sure sounds like someone who is going to run bearsfootball516 Dec 2018 #2

He is not wrong superpatriotman Dec 2018 #3

Joe Biden is 76 years old. Jim__ Dec 2018 #4

Why the ageism?! The guy could outrun Obama... give Joe a break! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #11

Tell that to the notorious RBG LostinRed Dec 2018 #52

I see him as a one term or 1+ term Pres. to get us on the road to recovery, woodsprite Dec 2018 #57

Unless some fellow party member tavernier Dec 2018 #5

Huh?! Who and what are you talking about?? InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #12

Ok, I'll spell it out. tavernier Dec 2018 #21

That applies to every King or Queen of the Mountain... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #43

It's been suggested that . . . peggysue2 Dec 2018 #53

Me too! tavernier Dec 2018 #62

I agree, tavernier peggysue2 Dec 2018 #67

I know Uncle Joe is getting up there, but... Zoonart Dec 2018 #6

So did our last nominee BeyondGeography Dec 2018 #7

she was... handmade34 Dec 2018 #8

Exactly. realmirage Dec 2018 #36

yeah...no hopeforchange2008 Dec 2018 #9

He is but too old. Nt USALiberal Dec 2018 #10

I hate how right you are Bucky Dec 2018 #38

Sounds like the decision has already been made. jcgoldie Dec 2018 #13

(I'd take him as VP again -- he absolutely *killed* at that job) Bucky Dec 2018 #40

Can you imagine the response - here and elsewhere - if Hillary Clinton had said this about herself? EffieBlack Dec 2018 #14

Good point jcgoldie Dec 2018 #15

Could you imagine if Biden had been the nominee in 2016 and had lost and then HRC said: StevieM Dec 2018 #18

What you said. Yup realmirage Dec 2018 #37

. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2018 #23

Excellent point. nt cwydro Dec 2018 #31

She wouldn't have been wrong for saying it. People jumping down her throat for it would be... phleshdef Dec 2018 #60

If you're gonna run, you better believe that. musicblind Dec 2018 #16

I don't see myself voting for Biden in a primary. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #17

Tom Steyer has my vote. (eom) StevieM Dec 2018 #19

With the right running mate, he would be a great choice. /nt LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #20

I think that is the key PatSeg Dec 2018 #22

NOPE. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2018 #24

What's the platform? BlueWI Dec 2018 #25

Actually, Mrs. Clinton is. saidsimplesimon Dec 2018 #26

Thank you! EffieBlack Dec 2018 #33

"Folks can't have it both ways." saidsimplesimon Dec 2018 #39

:-) EffieBlack Dec 2018 #42

Effie they are 2 different people. Nothing to do with gender. Bill is an albatross around Hillary's Pisces Dec 2018 #50

I see. So now, her HUSBAND is the reason she shouldn't run... EffieBlack Dec 2018 #61

I think you want to be outraged. Is sexism real, YES!! Pisces Dec 2018 #64

Yes, that's it. I just want to be outraged. EffieBlack Dec 2018 #66

"No one should run for the job unless they believe that they would be qualified doing the job." pangaia Dec 2018 #27

Being the most qualified isn't the only qualification Renew Deal Dec 2018 #28

Primaries Dave in VA Dec 2018 #29

there is no question he would be most qualified AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #30

Do you notice how only men are annoited with "Elder Statesman" status? EffieBlack Dec 2018 #34

I have noticed the same thing mercuryblues Dec 2018 #63

Please no "it's their turn" candidate eissa Dec 2018 #32

He is correct in my opinion. If he runs, I will vote for him. Demsrule86 Dec 2018 #35

No thanks. BlueStater Dec 2018 #41

Hahahahahaha WhiteTara Dec 2018 #44

Nope. And really? GHW Bush had more class and decency than Obama? Joe, you are a doofus seaglass Dec 2018 #45

I would vote for Joe Biden without even a second thought. Doreen Dec 2018 #46

Death is less of a concern than mental and physical deterioration. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #49

Too.old.Joe. n/t X_Digger Dec 2018 #47

Average age of the last 5 Democratic presidents: 48.6. # of presidents to assume office at 71+: 0. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #48

That would be Hillary Clinton. Caliman73 Dec 2018 #51

Sorry, but No, dem4decades Dec 2018 #55

That might need a chart zipplewrath Dec 2018 #59

So I went to see Joe speak last night here in Missoula. MontanaMama Dec 2018 #54

He is still_one Dec 2018 #56

He just might be RandySF Dec 2018 #58

Yes! I will vote for a well-qualified Democrat, and Biden R B Garr Dec 2018 #65

Hillary and Biden may be the most qualified, but are not the most likely to be nominated DFW Dec 2018 #68