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36. The adjunct prof. system is a huge rip off of the talent and labor of adjunct profs.

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 08:02 PM

Dec 2018

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I did it once in the 2000s. It was after relocating to Vegas from New York. It was at a for-profit school and I soon found out their other racket, the indebtedness they lured their students into with loans that can't even be discharged with bankruptcy. And many students were adults trying to get credentials for a better job. Many dropped out but were still saddled with humongous debts.

But back to the adjuncts. You never knew from quarter to quarter how many classes you would teach and therefore, your income. It was a miserable situation as you might have a class in the morning and not another until late afternoon. And no office space.

Once I found out about how they were indebting the students I got the hell out of there and I'm glad I did.

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