FFS! What is it that people DO NOT UNDERSTAND about 67 Senate votes to Impeach!

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87. This is a case of having half the jurors that you know in advance will NOT vote to convict

And in this case, Roberts presides over the trial, but doesn't vote, and can't declare summary judgment.

Nixon resigned because not only was impeachment certain, but conviction and removal probable. There are no longer Republican Senators of character such as Jacob Javits, or even Barry Goldwater. There are only Republican Senators of no character, such as Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, Susan Collins, Joni Ernst, etc.

Therefore, it becomes a question of what we get out of it by going through the motions. We ALREADY know he deserves it, just like the Republicans KNEW that Bill Clinton did NOT deserve it. They wanted to take down a Democratic president a peg who was just a little too popular for their liking. We would be trying to take down a Republican president who is so low, there are no more pegs below him. Trump is the proverbial pig. He likes it down there in the mud. You can bet his propagandists are already working on what his response will be to an impending impeachment and Senate acquittal.

It's not a question of "if the Senate refuses to do their job." We already KNOW they won't. This is not much more than a play whose script is already written. The only question is how the audience, in this case the whole country, will take it. We know he deserves conviction and removal from office. We know it won't happen. These are the starting points of the aftermath. Therefore, do we gain from having gone through the motions or do the Republicans?

If we do, then yes, we should do it. If not, then our House majority should concentrate on more productive activity from day one, and make enough noises about impeachment that Trump and the Republicans are distracted by the prospect 24/7.