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downwardly_mobile

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Wed Jan 4, 2012, 02:41 AM Jan 2012

WARNING: Don't misunderestimate him: Santorum may actually be electable. [View all]

So like many of us and like the pundits, I watched Santorum's speech tonight, and then Romney's. Santorum can give a good speech - not outstanding, but good, and with feeling.

Romney's speech showed him at his worst -- as a merchandizer, as Tweety said afterwards. The worst part of Romney's speech was when he recited the line

"O beautiful for heroes proved
In liberating strife.
Who more than self their country loved
And mercy more than life!" -- and THEN Romney, rather than making some heart-felt point about veterans, just did a shout-out -- along the lines of "Any veterans in the audience? Raise your hand" a lot like the gameshow emcee he too often appears to be.

Romney up until now looked like the Republican's Mr. Electable. Santorum looks like Mr. Electable now.

Let's start with the all-important image stuff: Santorum is a tall man, he has enough hair, and he looks really quite youthful for his 52 years. He's not a raving beauty, but you could call him low-key handsome. He's not a full-on fatty like Gingrich, although he does have a little bit of a belly.

As I said above, he's really not a bad speaker at all. He seems to show real feeling, or at least is far, far and away more skilled than Romney is at simulating sincerity.

He was a Congressman for 4 years and a Senator for 12, so that even though he lost in 2006, he's not a hopeless retread like Gingrich or a half-Governor like Palin.

I saw his wife speak at the start of a caucus tonight on C-SPAN. She's not a bad-looking woman, but most of all she comes across as down-to-earth with no airs at all. And one might even be able to say the same thing about her husband -- there really is something a little salt-of-the-earth, working-class about him: just for one thing, even his first name, "Rick", has kind of become, in recent years, a joke amongst the cultural elite who have come to see it as declasse. And the tones of his voice have no hint of the elite about them.

Yes, he's a full-on, hard-core social conservative -- but he doesn't exactly sound that way - he doesn't come across crazy the way Bachmann does, even though he shares her social ideology.

And as Ed Schultz was pointing out, Santorum is willing to talk about manufacturing and manufacturing jobs (if not to offer a real solution for those issues.)

Santorum may just be electable. You heard it here first. In fact, for the first time tonight, and I never thought I'd think this, I'd rather Obama face Romney than Santorum in November. Suddenly, Romney looks a lot more beatable.

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Stop it, you're scaring me... tinrobot Jan 2012 #1
I don't think Ricky will be the nominee...... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2012 #2
what about Romney/ Santorum 2012? n/t Betty Karlson Jan 2012 #23
Mormon/ Catholic nutcases together? I don't THINK so! WinkyDink Jan 2012 #27
That does worry me ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2012 #32
Yeah, sure he is. Lugnut Jan 2012 #3
I doubt he'll last long. Santorum said that he thinks states should be allowed to BAN Birth Control Tx4obama Jan 2012 #4
Damn, you beat me to it by 3 minutes... ellisonz Jan 2012 #7
Men won't like that either. n/t Withywindle Jan 2012 #12
Except that's never going to happen - the Supreme Court would have to overturn Griswold downwardly_mobile Jan 2012 #13
at this point i would rather run against Romney JI7 Jan 2012 #5
Steve Schmitt, repug on MSNBC, said Santorum hit it out of the park with his speech. elleng Jan 2012 #6
ha ha ha, lol. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #8
They did give us w dogman Jan 2012 #9
Compared to the other has-beens and wannabes, maybe - but in Real Life, nope REP Jan 2012 #10
I'll wait until he wins a few more primaries subterranean Jan 2012 #11
If santorum is electable, then it is over for the country. It would mean that the country has still_one Jan 2012 #14
As a lifelong Pennsylvanian, I must say you are full of sh*t scheming daemons Jan 2012 #15
It's actually good to hear this -- downwardly_mobile Jan 2012 #16
I sure would rather be up against santorum then Romney. Romney can attract independents, and that still_one Jan 2012 #18
Indies are usually Libertarians. Vote for a Theocratic Mormon? NOT. WinkyDink Jan 2012 #29
He IS everything that a great POLITICIAN is Cosmocat Jan 2012 #30
Under the right conditions, anyone nominated by one of the two parties can beat an incumbent stevenleser Jan 2012 #17
Women... ProfessionalLeftist Jan 2012 #19
He's not even nearly electable: he lost his Senate seat in a 41-59 blowout cuz he fugged up bigtime struggle4progress Jan 2012 #20
the republican nominee has already been decided. bowens43 Jan 2012 #21
If not at the top of the ticket... he could bring Pennsylvania. moriah Jan 2012 #22
Ding Ding Ding SpiralHawk Jan 2012 #24
Bwahahahah! No, he canNOT "bring" my state! PA IS BLUE. WinkyDink Jan 2012 #26
With his ass getting handed to him by Pennsylvanians 41-59 in 2006? justiceischeap Jan 2012 #28
He is INSANE. The nation as a whole will not elect this Catholic Fundy. WinkyDink Jan 2012 #25
I called it on Sunday morning: Ilsa Jan 2012 #31
Nope hifiguy Jan 2012 #33
santorum is in serious wingnut christian territory.... spanone Jan 2012 #34
You're joking right??!! center rising Jan 2012 #35
Not in PA. Believe me, he would get clobbered here. AlinPA Jan 2012 #36
I object to your use of the word "retard" in this context. Brickbat Jan 2012 #37
It was "retread" not the other word. hifiguy Jan 2012 #38
Thanks! That's what I get for reading too quickly! Brickbat Jan 2012 #40
Yeah... SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #39
Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert would probably be happy if Santorum was the nominee. Quantess Jan 2012 #41
When the story of the Santorums passing a corpse around the family goes mainstream, he's done. MrSlayer Jan 2012 #42
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