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83. About " legacy " admissions to private universities in the US

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 08:35 PM

Dec 2018

There are some interesting sources cited in this article about " legacy " admissions in the US here on Wikipedia --

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_preferences

Article excerpts:

...Legacy admissions are almost wholly confined to colleges and universities in the United States and are virtually unheard of in post-secondary institutions in other countries around the world....Legacy preferences in elite college and university admissions in the U.S. are widespread: almost three-quarters of research universities and nearly all liberal arts colleges grant legacy preferences in admissions.

...As a body of entering freshmen, legacies almost invariably have substantially lower GPAs and SAT scores than the larger body of entering freshmen, and, during their undergraduate careers, legacies as a body of students typically perform worse than the overall student body. ...

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According to the article, 75% of Americans oppose the legacy system, and it may even be illegal, but because many judges and politicians have benefited from it, there is little chance it will go away.

Reading this article, I was quite surprised at how widespread this system continues to be in America.

It also made me wonder what will happen with the Asian students' lawsuit against Harvard which is currently pending and how the outcome of that lawsuit might impact Harvard's legacy system, if at all.

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