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143. Did you seriously just type that Nixon wasn't a narcissist?

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FFS! What is it that people DO NOT UNDERSTAND about 67 Senate votes to Impeach! [View all] sheshe2 Dec 2018 OP

I tried. I really did. But . . . . . Stinky The Clown Dec 2018 #1

Luv ya, Stinky. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #13

Nixon resigned without a vote Cartoonist Dec 2018 #2

Nixon was a realist, not a narcissist MiniMe Dec 2018 #6

He was a bit of a narcissist, TBH Bucky Dec 2018 #73

Did you seriously just type that Nixon wasn't a narcissist? oberliner Dec 2018 #143

Cmon. You can't be a politician without being a narcissist. It's a given. erronis Dec 2018 #145

Compared to DT, he was a garden variety mini-narcissist. pnwmom Dec 2018 #150

The GOP Senators all got together and told him he'd be convicted FakeNoose Dec 2018 #12

Because Senators Goldwater and Scott informed him he had only 15 votes on his side /nt LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #18

Nixon didn't have FOX and a cult bitterross Dec 2018 #35

Nixon was cracking, but he was never batshit crazy like Red Don seems to be. nt Hekate Dec 2018 #38

Congress had the votes. His own party blackmailed him... Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author herding cats Dec 2018 #60

Compare to what we have now, Nixon was a statesman question everything Dec 2018 #61

But it was only after GOP senators... srobertss Dec 2018 #84

President Pence EffieBlack Dec 2018 #3

Impeach them both. allgood33 Dec 2018 #7

I await Mueller. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #49

Same Here Me. Dec 2018 #152

Thank you. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #153

... Me. Dec 2018 #154

I hope you're not suggesting letting a criminal owned by Russia stay in office... Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #54

Fact is Pence is a criminal owned by Russia as well. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #67

and I don't think it stops there... anarch Dec 2018 #94

I fear that a "reconciliation" phase without the "truth" part will be the outcome erronis Dec 2018 #146

So if the Senate is not going to do its Constitutional duty the House dem4decades Dec 2018 #4

In a word stopdiggin Dec 2018 #16

Thank you. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #24

As well as distracting from stuff that CAN be done The Mouth Dec 2018 #53

You need to quit thinking of impeachment and removal in criminal terms Bucky Dec 2018 #75

In that analogy Martin Eden Dec 2018 #97

67 Senate votes to remove. Impeachment is the name for the thing that the House does. RockRaven Dec 2018 #5

That's poorly worded... 2naSalit Dec 2018 #8

With the enablers, thy name be the GOPeee. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #26

I agree with you, my dear sheshe... CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2018 #9

Trump lost by 3 million votes. He's locked at 40% approval. We retook the House Azathoth Dec 2018 #10

Well sheshe2 Dec 2018 #31

"Sorry. Repukes don't give a damn" Azathoth Dec 2018 #36

I thought there was a good chance of taking the House in Jan 2017 marylandblue Dec 2018 #117

If he's guily of felonies the hous really has no choice but to impeach. Scruffy1 Dec 2018 #42

I agree. The House must hold a criminal accountable & try to protect the country. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #62

The ultimate goal of impeachment is removal from office dansolo Dec 2018 #101

In other words, do your duty. Just like the repulicons were doing with ACA, Benghazi, emails... erronis Dec 2018 #147

I think what it depends on is public opinion. RDANGELO Dec 2018 #11

I disagree. Public opinion doesn't matter when it comes to the law. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #65

I'm not saying they shouldn't impeach him. RDANGELO Dec 2018 #81

I think the public opinion factors into the calculation the GOP will have to make BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #90

Resignation would be cheaper JustFiveMoreMinutes Dec 2018 #14

I think it's better FoxNewsSucks Dec 2018 #15

did I miss a rewrite of the Constitution? Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #17

We should do our constitutional duty regardless of whether the Senate does theirs. ooky Dec 2018 #19

exactly janterry Dec 2018 #106

house will have no choice but to impeach AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #20

You are exactly right She Andy823 Dec 2018 #21

Thank you Andy. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #37

It will take a great deal to get 20 GOP senators to vote to convict Gothmog Dec 2018 #22

21 GOP Senators are up for re-election in 2020,. DinahMoeHum Dec 2018 #118

"It would give Trump a second term..." jcgoldie Dec 2018 #23

Well... sheshe2 Dec 2018 #46

OK jcgoldie Dec 2018 #77

True! And what about mueller findings. Are we just gonna nibble around the edges? This whole ide Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #123

We have to breathe here. Deep breaths. MontanaMama Dec 2018 #25

There is no constitutional duty to impeach marylandblue Dec 2018 #30

Good post mcar Dec 2018 #107

Impeachment is simply an indictment RhodeIslandOne Dec 2018 #27

I agree, we should NOT talk about impeachment now. It is premature. However, after the Mueller still_one Dec 2018 #28

FFS dweller Dec 2018 #71

Actually you brought up an even better point which needed emphasis. It would draw attention to the still_one Dec 2018 #92

Why are people so concerned about "history?" marylandblue Dec 2018 #29

Dem House should haul in Rupert Murdoch, Sean Hannity EndGOPPropaganda Dec 2018 #32

Pretty sure Hannity is under investigation as well. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #68

I don't think it is about "understanding" about the process. Caliman73 Dec 2018 #33

Perfectly put Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #39

I agree. If he committed high crimes & misdemeanors, it is the House's duty to impeach. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #45

I contend that this is in no way comparable Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #70

I think there will be a backlash, if we don't move to do the proper, legal thing. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #72

Dems lack of balls Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #74

Bingo. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #76

Thank you! +1 Ponietz Dec 2018 #98

"It would be a fools errand to try impeachment" elmac Dec 2018 #34

If he committed high crimes & misdemeanors, we must proceed w/the lawful recourse. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #40

Yes. Impeachment should be ready to go LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #52

I see your point. But I'm not talking politics. We HAVE to impeach, if there is clear evidence. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #57

+1 Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #125

I'm right there with you, sheshe.For a supposedly reality-based forum, there are fantasies galore... Hekate Dec 2018 #41

And that, right there, is the focus mcar Dec 2018 #108

If the evidence becomes overwhelming and the house doesn't John Fante Dec 2018 #43

I don't care what it looks like. But we have to do the right thing & impeach... Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #50

Agreed 100% John Fante Dec 2018 #135

Well Jon. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #59

well then we probably shouldn't imprison Heather's killer. uncle ray Dec 2018 #100

Well then... sheshe2 Dec 2018 #138

I can't think of a better way to honor their memory John Fante Dec 2018 #134

Where did I post what you are saying? sheshe2 Dec 2018 #139

That's what I responding to. Apparently, you want us to walk on eggshells for the John Fante Dec 2018 #156

No John. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #157

Wait until the real news of what Mueller knows comes out. It may be quite alarming, and C Moon Dec 2018 #44

Exactly. That is the correct answer when asked about impeachment...the mueller probe is not Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #126

I can't wait! sheshe2 Dec 2018 #141

Makes me want to bang my head against the wall. bitterross Dec 2018 #47

You're missing a huge equation SHRED Dec 2018 #48

Actually, SHRED I am not missing anything. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #64

Worse are the idiots railing about the Electoral College The Mouth Dec 2018 #55

"Yes, even compromise with fascists." uncle ray Dec 2018 #102

Unless you have a supermajority in both houses and the presidency The Mouth Dec 2018 #133

FFS, It's about principle, it's about taking a stand, it's about doing THE RIGHT THING Fiendish Thingy Dec 2018 #56

Omg, YES Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #78

Yes! Ponietz Dec 2018 #99

So just forget about upholding the Constitution and the rule of law? KelleyKramer Dec 2018 #58

+1. Democrats have no control over the Senate, but a Democratic-controlled House must do its duty. dalton99a Dec 2018 #66

Impeach him Devil Child Dec 2018 #63

I hear you, and I see the locals here railing against reality. herding cats Dec 2018 #69

House impeaches while Senate convicts... Joe941 Dec 2018 #79

I'll respectfully push back on that. What if prosecutors let every criminal off the hook ecstatic Dec 2018 #80

This is a case of having half the jurors that you know in advance will NOT vote to convict DFW Dec 2018 #87

I disagree. honest.abe Dec 2018 #82

TOTALLY on point.. nt Raine Dec 2018 #83

The. Senate. Does. Not. Impeach. eShirl Dec 2018 #85

No matter the outcome, WE NEED TO TRY. Talitha Dec 2018 #86

I agree with you She. For all the talk of "principles" & "constitutional duty", impeachment plays.. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #88

Upholding the rule of law is not a fools errand. XRubicon Dec 2018 #89

Sadly... Mike Nelson Dec 2018 #91

Is as if some view congresspersons as impartial jurors. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #93

What's the solution? Sunsky Dec 2018 #95

Impeachment can be used as a tactic in run up to 2020 election, all about timing beachbum bob Dec 2018 #96

April 2020 would be good - plenty of evidence from Mueller & NYAG by then dalton99a Dec 2018 #105

And 21 GOP Senators are up for re-election in 2020. . . DinahMoeHum Dec 2018 #119

"McConnel CANNOT delay it" NYC Liberal Dec 2018 #127

But this is DU where if you really, really wish and want something to happen, elocs Dec 2018 #103

Patience is right mcar Dec 2018 #104

Assume you would start with 47 votes. kentuck Dec 2018 #109

Things are hitting the fan quickly these days kacekwl Dec 2018 #110

"All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #111

I disagree with this take... Chitown Kev Dec 2018 #112

I also stated we have a lot of irons in the fire. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #144

What I understand is we're furnishing trump with aid and comfort he in no way deserves. Paladin Dec 2018 #113

Big Picture modrepub Dec 2018 #114

Impeachment requires a majority of the House. Conviction and removal require 67 Senators. Squinch Dec 2018 #115

Also, 21 Republican Senators are up for re-election in 2020. . . DinahMoeHum Dec 2018 #132

The ultimate political disaster is not to impeach BeyondGeography Dec 2018 #116

Totally disagree. Who cares if we don't have the votes. We must stand up regardless. Nt Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #120

People here completely understand Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #121

The problem is they want impeachment to happen two seconds after we take over the House... Iggo Dec 2018 #122

This defeatist language is what has soured voters on the Democratic Party for decades Zorro Dec 2018 #124

Please stop conflating the issues. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2018 #128

This is why I ..painfully.. ignore the whole thing ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #129

It would better help get the truth out Stargleamer Dec 2018 #130

I think you're flat wrong. Impeachment is the Indictment. bullimiami Dec 2018 #131

Impeachment (House) vs removal (Senate). We must impeach, ideally when we can remove. (n/t) FreepFryer Dec 2018 #136

The House must impeach, regardless of what the Senate does AndJusticeForSome Dec 2018 #137

I agree with this post pecosbob Dec 2018 #140

But Mueller might reveal some REALLY HIDEOUS SHIT. yodermon Dec 2018 #142

I don't understand why people feel the need to tell others what to think MrGrieves Dec 2018 #148

You are correct. GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #149

"They forgot that the Repuke controls the Senate 51/49" Polybius Dec 2018 #151

An impeachment trial will get very messy Turbineguy Dec 2018 #155