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pnwmom

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5. It wasn't deliberately left out. it didn't exist when the Constitution was written.

Reply to marylandblue (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:37 AM

Dec 2018

And cyberwarfare could wreak a huge amount of havoc, and even cause loss of life. If they attacked our hospitals or critical parts of our infrastructure, would you still say it wasn't an act of war?

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Misprision of Treason: A lot Republicans will be learning 18 U.S. Code 2382 [View all] Julian Englis Dec 2018 OP

We just had another thread on why it's not treason marylandblue Dec 2018 #1

Cyber war is an act of war, according to the Pentagon, since 2012. nt Baltimike Dec 2018 #2

It's not a war according to the Constitution, Congress, and the courts marylandblue Dec 2018 #4

It wasn't deliberately left out. it didn't exist when the Constitution was written. pnwmom Dec 2018 #5

Countries that are at war don't maintain diplomatic relations or allow trade and travel. onenote Dec 2018 #6

We weren't at at with Japan till they attacked us at Pearl Harbor. pnwmom Dec 2018 #8

"If" hasn't happened. So I guess you're agreeing with me that we're not presently at war with Russia onenote Dec 2018 #11

I never said we were. But I don't think we should be deciding in advance pnwmom Dec 2018 #12

It doesn't require a state of war for treason meow2u3 Dec 2018 #19

I agree. We live in a much different world than that when the treason statute was created. triron Dec 2018 #7

An "act of war" and a war are two different things marylandblue Dec 2018 #9

It has to start somewhere. When Japan struck us at Pearl Harbor, pnwmom Dec 2018 #10

In terms of law, aiding a cyberwar still could be considered espionage, theft or other crimes marylandblue Dec 2018 #15

If Americans had assisted in the attack at Pearl Harbor, before a state of war pnwmom Dec 2018 #13

Possibly, but only because it started the war or led directly to it marylandblue Dec 2018 #14

I am not saying the recent Russian cyber attacks amounted to war. pnwmom Dec 2018 #17

I can agree with that. marylandblue Dec 2018 #20

"not bad enough" treestar Dec 2018 #21

This is not about culture today, it's about a legal bright line in the Constitution marylandblue Dec 2018 #22

Sedition comes closer to what the trumpers have done but it still... brush Dec 2018 #16

There's an easier answer. TomSlick Dec 2018 #3

That seems like good reasoning. Nt lostnfound Dec 2018 #18