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41. he's not going to be a one-term mentor

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:08 AM

Dec 2018

are you kidding me? If he runs and wins, he's running for a second term unless he's literally on life support.

The fact that you yourself have to qualify it means you also have concerns about his age.

And if you don't agree nominating two white men is a thing that has long passed its prime then I'm going to guess that you are an older, white male.

I can dismiss all sorts of things with the information I have. I like Biden. Made a great VP. But he's an old white male with a history filled with poor decisions like the Anita Hill hearings and his love of corporations. I'm no Sanders fan either by the way, I'm fine with a left of center candidate.

The only reason why Biden is in play is folks are too fucking scared of Trump and they think Biden is the only one who can take him on, on his ground. Yes, he could, but Trump lucked into one election...any competent Dem can beat him.

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What do you think of a Biden-O'Rourke ticket in 2020? [View all] Cousin Dupree Dec 2018 OP

BIDEN/BETO is a winnnaaaahhhh. nt UniteFightBack Dec 2018 #1

second that!! onetexan Dec 2018 #37

Not when people learn about how Biden was behind the push to eliminate pnwmom Dec 2018 #66

And let's not forget his anti-integration stance in the '70s EffieBlack Dec 2018 #72

Thank you, EffieBlack. Yes, that will come out, too. pnwmom Dec 2018 #74

And that he was ... cannabis_flower Dec 2018 #91

And the Crime Bill he sponsored and voted for that Hillary was raked over the coals for EffieBlack Dec 2018 #93

Biden too old. Younger blood needed. nt USALiberal Dec 2018 #2

o'rourke but as VP agingdem Dec 2018 #28

I like a Sherrod Brown/ Kamala Harris ticket. I think that is a winner! skylucy Dec 2018 #70

I don't want to see Biden on any ticket..n/t monmouth4 Dec 2018 #68

Adam Schiff and whomever, we have a plethora of great possibilities..n/t monmouth4 Dec 2018 #73

I like Adam Schiff too agingdem Dec 2018 #86

Yes, and sorry, two white males won't play in Peoria or 2020 for Dems now. brush Dec 2018 #85

Winner! mainstreetonce Dec 2018 #3

I think there are too many penises obamanut2012 Dec 2018 #4

Ageist AND sexist; awesome /nt LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #7

So if a 95 year old person wanted to run for President qazplm135 Dec 2018 #31

The point is that we examine how they are at the time, and judge accordingly, not just dismiss LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #36

he's not going to be a one-term mentor qazplm135 Dec 2018 #41

We absolutely need a woman and I don't care how old she is, unless she has dementia. milestogo Dec 2018 #43

My first choices will be young, young and YOUNG! manor321 Dec 2018 #5

Just as there may be such a thing as "too old", PatSeg Dec 2018 #42

Dems win with a younger candidate Freddie Dec 2018 #82

Good point. We win when we run younger candidates. History shows it. brush Dec 2018 #87

Biden on the foreign policy front Turbineguy Dec 2018 #6

I'm not into Biden at all JonLP24 Dec 2018 #8

+1. Love Joe, but he should enjoy his retirement dalton99a Dec 2018 #15

I would forget Biden and just take O'Rourke marylandblue Dec 2018 #9

A Washington insider is precisely what we need right now; there's a lot of damage to undo, LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #16

We might need an insider, but can an insider win? marylandblue Dec 2018 #24

Obviously, I believe so. LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #27

I think we have several comparable candidates marylandblue Dec 2018 #30

Biden, an insider who knows the ropes and can work on repairing foreign relations and MAGA Cousin Dupree Dec 2018 #29

Exactly; we need gravitas, which our younger options lack. That's not their fault, LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #33

I was thinking the same thing PatSeg Dec 2018 #47

I agree. Cousin Dupree Dec 2018 #50

No matter what we end up with, PatSeg Dec 2018 #63

Funny how, for many people, being a "Washington insider" is an attribute for a man EffieBlack Dec 2018 #48

Too male, too white. phylny Dec 2018 #10

Yep. Harris-O'Rourke for me. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #49

Harris - O"Rourke people Dec 2018 #54

If the plan is one term for Biden, and Beto is actively involved in his administration, then LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #11

Why would you put up a candidate and plan for them to step down after one term? jcgoldie Dec 2018 #22

One term is not "I'll quit soon." Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #32

This is not a real thing jcgoldie Dec 2018 #34

This is so spot on. Let's not even consider any one-term fantasy. brush Dec 2018 #88

You don't know that it's not real, or become real Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #99

Because he is older; I'm not denying that. But one term avoids all the pitfalls of running LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #39

I just think you pick the best candidate jcgoldie Dec 2018 #40

Also, who has a running mate in the primary anyway? marylandblue Dec 2018 #51

Exactly. The running mate is picked after securing the nomination. brush Dec 2018 #89

It's not "hedging bets"; I'm talking about a deliberate plan for rebuilding the government LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #53

Why Biden will not be president: Student loan debt. dalton99a Dec 2018 #12

I love Joe, but no. Chellee Dec 2018 #13

It is time for us old folk to move over Guppy Dec 2018 #14

I think the party is committed to the Steve Phillips strategy aikoaiko Dec 2018 #17

Why are we going by race and gender rather than best candidate? marylandblue Dec 2018 #26

Maybe not enough to get the ones who are more apathetic, busy, or feeling disenfranchised aikoaiko Dec 2018 #55

I think voters respond to energy, organization and outreach marylandblue Dec 2018 #58

NOT Biden. I love him, but no. nt tblue37 Dec 2018 #18

Love uncle Joe but... jcgoldie Dec 2018 #19

For me, Biden is too old, but I like how he handles trump ecstatic Dec 2018 #20

I LOVE Kamala Harris. I would vote for her in an instant. But what is the combination that will Cousin Dupree Dec 2018 #35

Apparently, for some folks, an all white all male ticket will be universally popular EffieBlack Dec 2018 #52

See my post here: Garrett78 Dec 2018 #56

Harris/Kennedy or Harris/Beto would work. brush Dec 2018 #90

You got it half right. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2018 #21

I think we need to look at someone younger, to be honest Marrah_Goodman Dec 2018 #23

I think it's a crap idea. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2018 #25

Like so many other tickets......... DFW Dec 2018 #38

O'Rourke, not Biden MoonRiver Dec 2018 #44

Nah, I'm good. nt mattclearing Dec 2018 #45

Not much EffieBlack Dec 2018 #46

Too white cilla4progress Dec 2018 #57

AOC is too young TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #65

Is that serious? George II Dec 2018 #107

We need someone to clean up the mess trump leaving us FloridaBlues Dec 2018 #59

I think it's too early and I think Biden is too old & represents the past. elocs Dec 2018 #60

I am planning to support Tom Steyer. (eom) StevieM Dec 2018 #61

Not a fan hueymahl Dec 2018 #62

Boring carleigh86 Dec 2018 #64

That's a winning ticket Qutzupalotl Dec 2018 #67

We need to be reminded of "the promise of America" by two white guys EffieBlack Dec 2018 #69

It doesn't matter the color of their skin. Qutzupalotl Dec 2018 #71

Sounds good EffieBlack Dec 2018 #75

Not by me you wouldn't. Qutzupalotl Dec 2018 #84

I think Harris and Sherrod Brown would make an excellent combination. CTyankee Dec 2018 #98

O'Rourke is currently a US Representative Qutzupalotl Dec 2018 #100

I knew I shouldn't have opined on this, which is a day I am sick in bed. CTyankee Dec 2018 #104

Unless that's the only color we get. Iggo Dec 2018 #79

Oh it matters all right, and so does gender. Our party in not all white males. brush Dec 2018 #92

I like Kennedy but this might be just affection I feel for his family. CTyankee Dec 2018 #105

I think Trump's blowing up shit right the fuck now. Iggo Dec 2018 #76

We have no shortage of talent flyingfysh Dec 2018 #77

Biden, Clinton, etc. can still work as advisors to president AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #78

No to Biden, Yes to Beto janterry Dec 2018 #80

How about Anita Hill/ Christine Blasey Ford. Squinch Dec 2018 #81

Not as god as Kamela/Beto denbot Dec 2018 #83

One term only. RichardRay Dec 2018 #94

Or maybe O'Malley/O'Rourke PAMod Dec 2018 #95

Definitely don't like O'Malley's past with stop and frisk as mayor JonLP24 Dec 2018 #96

Nope. We need a hardass president to lead us through this, not someone who is always looking JudyM Dec 2018 #97

Nothing PJMcK Dec 2018 #101

Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner!! PubliusEnigma Dec 2018 #102

From someone who speaks from experience, (I'm old and I used to be young) Canoe52 Dec 2018 #103

I would support this ticket Gothmog Dec 2018 #106

Any ticket that has a nearly 80-year-old man on it is not for me. n/t BlueStater Dec 2018 #108

No to Biden ZeroSomeBrains Dec 2018 #109